I have a AC Regenerator. Get dedicated line too?


My PurePower APS 1050 AC Regenerator made an incredible difference in my system. Since everything connected to the unit is fed perfect, steady 120V power, is there any reason to expect that running a dedicated 20 amp AC line to my system and installing new high end receptacles would make any difference at all??? If you have experience with this I would appreciate your opinion, if you have an opinion without experience, tell me your thoughts about this. Hurry, before I spend any more money just to find out!

Thanks.
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Alonski - It's good to her that the manufacture isn't an example of bunk in advertising.
Here's a quote from the PS Audio website:

"The Power Plant concept acknowledges that we cannot control the quality of the home’s incoming AC power, nor can we fully repair its problems. Instead we simply ignore the problems, start over and generate new AC, thus eliminating the problem entirely. There is no connection between the input and the output of a Power Plant."

So it would be double-speak to suggest that an upgraded power cord would have any effect on the output when also claiming that there is no connenction between the input and output.
If it is truly regenerating the power then I can't see a connection between the input and output. That's the whole point of regenerating the power in the first place, right?

If I upgraded the power cord, outlet, or got a dedicated line and could hear a difference, I would want my money back.
Again, from the PS Audio website:

"The PS Audio’s Power Plant AC regenerator takes the power you’re given from the utility, converts it to DC and then regenerates brand new and perfect power once again. For more than 13 years the Power Plants have been producing perfect AC all over the world, helping audio- and video-philes and people who simply want better results from their investment achieve the best their equipment can provide."

If the PerfectWave Power Plan is advertised to produce "perfect" power then it must be assumed that when you purchase one you don't need to upgrade the power cord to get perfect power.

To recommend an upgraded power cable would be hypocritical given their marketing.
Assuming that the regenerator is producing perfect power the losses then start from that point through your system. It makes sense that if the new power cord does a better job of transferring the power to the preamp then you could hear a difference. All cables have some negative effect on the signal going through it since nothing is a perfect conductor.
If you're getting multiple new power cords, just install one from the wall to the regenerator and see if you can hear a differece. If placebo, or reality, show themselves, then upgrade that cable and consider a dedicated line, otherwise, put the cable back where it was purchased to go and listen in peace.
Stanwal - All I'm saying is that they way the PPP is advertised, an upgraded cord shouldn't be necessary. If there is, in fact, no connection between the input and output that implies that things in front cannot have an effect on the output. I have not done an A/B and considering that the PPP cost more than my entire system I doubt I'll ever have a reason to find out for myself.

By the way, it should always be expected that a company recommend it's products be used with it's products. I've always wondered why they just don't include their best cord with the PPP. I doubt it would really reduce the sales.
"I'm now in the process of running a direct line to my computer server which stores all my music files and one to the cable and WiFi modems. And of course there is only one reason, to enhance the quality of the sound." - Sgr

As a point of humor, a dedicated line implies that it's for a single piece of equipment and not "modems" plural.

I think you're going way overboard here but have no doubt that you'll hear the improvements that you anticipate hearing.

As for the point of regenerators performing like power amplifiers and therefore being candidates for power cord upgrades, I'd say that a power cord might result in an improvement when connected to a regenerator, but it would be for reason that are unrelated to the regenerator. Al discussed some reason for why an improvement might be noticed, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the regenerator is benefiting from the upgraded power cable.

The original question in this thread was if a regenerator would benefit from an upgraded power cord. I would say absolutely as long as their marketing is factual, but this doesn't preclude the overall system being improved by upgrading the power cord. Understand the difference? This may be where experience and rational logic meet.
Wasted money is wasted money and it could be put into something better like vinyl.

From my perspective, there are two main things to consider. First, the advertised engineering behind the product strongly states, from a logical perspective, that an upgraded power cord should NOT make any difference. Second, if you assume that the manufacture is being honest in their adversiting and you do hear a difference with an upgraded power cord the logical conclusion is that it's for a different reason other than it actually improving the output of the regenerator. As Al mentioned earlier, there can be differences from using shielded power cords because they isolate themselves from other sensitive components and/or cables. If this is true, then it still doesn't matter what is behind the outlet unless you're planning to run 100% shielded lines and this is unlikely.

Just because you hear a difference in an A/B doesn't mean that it's due to a change at the output on the regenerator. Don't forget this fact.
Snopro - It can only hurt your wallet so if it doesn't have any feelings then you're absolutely correct.