How to reveal the truth?


Is there anyway to let people know when a seller is blatently misleading people other than perhaps posting an thread in the forum? There was a Convergent audio SL1 Renaissance that had been for sale for a few days now, sold today. The seller posted the serial number but later removed it from the ad for unknown reasons. He said the unit was new and rated it a 10/10, then changed it to state it had only been used about 20 hours but still 10/10. I messaged him to get the serial number so I could call the manufacturer and found out some interesting facts. The pre was actually 5 years old not new as the seller described. I then called the dealer it was shipped to and they told me they used the pre for 5 years as a demo and show unit. They damaged the top and faceplate so they replaced those with new ones hence the newer designed faceplate on the unit now. They confirmed that they sold it to the customer about 3 months prior as a used demo unit. After finding out this information I still felt like it was a decent deal and made an offer to the seller, of course revealing the information just incase he didn't know for some crazy reason (seller didn't comment about the info). I felt like I was informed on what i was bidding on thought at this point while others would not know and would think they are actually buying a new unit. Anyways, do you guys know anyway through audiogon that you can inform people that this is whats happening so they can at least be informed about the product they are buying?
harri009
Keep asking questions.
On the main Audiogon screen click on the "Help" tab in yellow towards the top of the page and this will allow you to contact Audiogon directly with your concerns and the information that you have received.

It is laudable that you are doing your part to eliminate misinformation on the site. This folderol diminishes all of us. Thanks.
Good luck most of these people BS BIG TIME!!
"06-25-15: Ebm
Good luck most of these people BS BIG TIME!!"

Does that include me?
At the lower left hand side of the ad page, just below the message box, you will see a small flag followed by in small print,
Report this listing

LOL, not sure why Agon made the print so small.

You must be logged in.
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After finding out this information I still felt like it was a decent deal and made an offer to the seller, of course revealing the information just incase he didn't know for some crazy reason (seller didn't comment about the info).

I felt like I was informed on what i was bidding on thought at this point while others would not know and would think they are actually buying a new unit.
Harri009

Harri009,

At this point you should Link the Agon ad listing so Agon can stop the sale so the poor sucker that bought the equipment won't get screwed.
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He actually sold it locally, so manually ended his ad. I did receive a message from him that was meant to go to the local guy though. He was telling him how he would never find another NEW cat at this price again. I just don't understand why people lie about stereo equipment of all things Lol.. I mean really this is just a hobby and meant to be fun.
I just don't understand why people lie about stereo equipment of all things

One word answer- M O N E Y.
I'm surprised that happened. The huge majority of item for sale on this site, and the volume seems much less than it was previously, are sold by dealers.

Generally, since this is now mainly a dealer site, while the variety is down and the costs are way up, the quality is excellent. most of these guys have been around for years, and stand behind their products.

But as everyone says, keep asking questions.
There are many ways to get good value on this site. Also more wyas than anywhere else to throw large sums of money down the tubes.

So basically anything is possible so act accordingly.
Looks like local guy didn't buy it after all as he just relisted it


Looks like local guy didn't buy it after all as he just relisted it
06-26-15: Harri009

Is this the Convergent audio SL1 Renaissance in question?
If so, because you think the seller is giving misleading information in the ad about the equipment, you should report a complaint by clicking on the 'Report this listing' found in the lower left hand side of the ad just below 'Ask the seller a public question'.

Agon ad in question?
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Yes that's the one. He isn't claiming absolutely new in this new ad but the information above is the full story. Like I said I felt comfortable making an offer last time after knowing the full story. But I thought the item was sold when I started this topic on how to disclose information to everyone. My intent with the topic wasn't necessarily to force the ad to be removed as the dealer comfirmed the item is real, the intent was more to ask if there was a way to let everyone know the full story of an ad when they find out that the information being provided isn't fully true.