How's the quality of the HDCD's from China/Ebay


I'm thinking of buying some HDCD's on Ebay that come from China. What are people's experience with buying from China and what's the quality of the HDCD's themselves?

Thanks,
Mike
vman71
I bought a Radiohead HDCD from China several months ago. The quality of the packaging and artwork was very good, with the exception that some of the song titles were amusingly misspelled.
The disc itself sounds very good, although I suspect that some kind of maximizer has been used to boost the overall level of the disc. Also, tracks that should run seamlessly together have been written with 1 second gaps. In other words, what you are buying is definitely a bootleg - a very impressive bootleg - but nevertheless a bootleg!
See if this helps. A co-worker, who came back from a trip to China, had a DVD release of a new movie that was not officially on DVD yet. The case and cover art was as professional as any you see in the stores today. We loaded the DVD on a laptop at the office I noticed that it had a black band on all sides of the movie as if the format ratio on the laptop was not set properly to view it on the entire screen. We did not pay any attention to it until we saw something scroll across the bottom of the screen. After reversing it to view it again we realized that it was the top part of someones head walking in front of the movie screen that someone was capturing on their video camera. :)

I have friends over there and know that a great deal of items are extremely cheap. I also know there is a lot of bootlegging going on. All one can say is let the buyer beware.
I believe most of these discs are pirates.

They are not official releases therefore I would suggest it is very probable that it is possible to put code on the discs that enable HDCD decoders and as Spiritualized says the volume is boosted but crucially the discs aren't actually HDCD at all.

Surely a waste of time.
I have a few Chinese DVDs and the quality is generally quite good and they are inexpensive. The DVDs that come from China are from companies that have their DVDs made in China. Therefore the discs are simply the Chinese releases of the same title. In some cases the Chinese versions have better packaging and extras that the American counterparts do not have. And all are in english with chinese subtitles. But some turn out to be rejected discs that may have a missprinted label or may even lock up.
As far as the Chinese HDCD titles, I have a few but none are actually HDCD encoded. They just have it printed on the cover.
Most of the China sellers work as follows:

They set up an auction for a CD or DVD. You buy it. They go down the street and buy it at a store for $2 or less, and mail it to you, pocketing the rest as profit. Yeah, these $2 CDs and DVDs are usually high quality pirates, but still pirates. I spoke to a gentleman at length about where he got a particular DVD and that was pretty much his answer. So you usually _aren't_ dealing with the pirates, themselves. Just some student buying discs from a local store.

Though me never did bother to send my money back. Oh well.

I've also unintentionally bought some very high-quality pirates from the Russian Federation on eBay. I did notice the tonal balance on those CDs (about 12 for $36) were tipped up in the treble. Pitty as those CDs were out of print, but I was able to compare it against the one that I did have.

I've learned to avoid these auctions.
Velo62-yes the HDCD light comes on with these discs-read my intial post again.
If anybody wants to direct me to the information that Radiohead and Coldplay exist officially on HDCD I'll eat my words.

The bootleggers realise HDCD attracts audio fans hence the clever pirating of these discs.
I bought two Coldplay cds. They sound ok but I haven't compared them with US versions. I bought a US version for my sister, I'll have to check it out to see which is better.
I will say these two cds don't present the soundfield depth that cds such as Joni Mitchell's do. I have compared "Blue" and "Court and Spark" HDCD against nonencoded versions and believe there is much better sound with HDCD encoding. I believe they were also remastered so that could contribute significantly to improved sound.
They seem fine to me however I am always hungry about an hour after playing them.
A lot of the sellers of these discs have been rumbled and have disappeared with the discs that say hdcd but no light comes on. Quality is good on genuine discs. Quality on others(bootlegs)is surprisingly good at first but ultimately tiring.