How much do I need to spend to get a preamp that sounds better than no preamp?

Clio09 5-25-2018
Seriously, we’re quoting Paul McGowan around here now? Things have gotten a bit worse on this forum than I suspected.

Hi Anthony,

As the saying goes, don’t attack the person making the argument, attack the argument.

Regards,
-- Al

more... 6moons reviewed the Kuzma. It validated many of the things I am now/finally hearing by running signal direct from my 105 outs to amps

Still, I guess I am programmed to place something inbetween, which is why I want a money back guarantee

You mean Khozmo, right?
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/khozmo/1.html
And this also might be of interest;
http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/passive2/1.html

Hi Al, hopefully you already knew this but to be clear I was not attacking you, it was more a reflection of my opinion of Paul McGowan's comments, which I'm not even going to bother to take the time to address. I think George's comment says a lot in that regard.

In my opinion, the most relevant comments on the need for an active preamp are those made by Ralph.

Yes Khozuma

but this looks like it real l audiophile grade

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/tortuga-ldr3v2k-passive-preamplifier/

newer version on their site