How it works! From a common man.


How a boutique fuses changes the sound in a piece of equipment, and how (at least) one became directional.

How they made it directional. Yes SOME, very few, are made that way. I'll Explain what I found.
  
Why it works or NOT. This is NOT a fuse shoot out.  This is a, "WHY it works", Not "it just does", session. LOL

Everyone is welcome to help me figure out why it works, BUT why it doesn't, with a reason, is VERY welcome.

No name callin'.  Don't call folks liars, just state your personal learning extravaganza, HOW, and WHY.

We'll figure out WHY, and HOW it effects something.. Cause and Effect. NO PSYCHOBABBLE.

Big words hurt my head, keep it simple for us common folks if you would please.

I promise to be on my best behavior, maybe. :-)
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I’m trying to be careful with my words. Things like AC, (LOL) I’m gonna steer clear of. I’ve heard and seen more disagreement behind the "way it suppose to works" than anything on earth, (just an example).

The funny part is NONE of the parties involved, do it for a living, or were trained in that field. They are sell used cars by day, but (in a lot of cases) some mad "Mr Green Genes", from the old "Captain Kangaroo" show, by night. Their terminology, and perhaps technique, are not the norm, BUT ONLY 1 thing matters. Will it stay working in spite of not knowing WHY? I understand this kind of person, otamatones (90% of the world)
In other word, great parts changers, backyard farmers, garage band folks, in their teens. :-) NEVER any good though...bigger :-) 

Then there is the majority of people to consider though. They understand ALL the terms, how and why it work EVERYTHING (so it seems) but can’t put their hands on it and do it. I don’t know why. Is it human nature?
The "professors" of the world, (My heros). The back seat driver, in a 747, kind of person..Ops, missed a turn, as you fly by India.. LOL That's a left, a left...I can see it now...

Then the odd ball pops up that can do EVERYTHING. Including make the music. Even the stuff that "Makes the music". the stuff to collect and keep the music, make the the stuff to reproduce the music.
They made it, they collected it, they put it on a medium, and sold the music. Who is the "Star" in all this, after all, sure NOT ME..

I’m not an electrician, I’m the other 20%, Yup Most of the family went one of 5 ways.

Mechanics, Electrictricians, Health Care, Law or OTHER. They were all war dogs. The degree and depth vary. "Other" is a whole different thread, LOL

We all helped each other through the years. We built/fixed/added on to each others homes.

Close to 25-28 holmes within 100 mile or so. I left a mark, something I built, my two hand, ALL my mistakes, Man oh Man..

No fancy people, here. Honest though. Just common folks. Church goin’ folks, for the most part, Americans, through and through..

I do have a serious political view, just nothing to do with this ol earth. EVERYONE has a choice. I never give up on anyone, I don’t care who they are.

I love this country, I enjoy, the fact, we can talk "STEREO", find a common ground, and LEARN and enjoy the journey.

My oh my that was a long one.. "No Drips", everyone!

Time to feed the chickens. Talk about look you in the eye, a chicken, YUP one honest animal..

So the next question is, Does it bounce up and down, OR Does it bounce DOWN, and UP?

All part of a series.. LOL


Regards
LOL Nail on the head.. It will displace UP TO 40 times it's weight of water.

I've dried many a diesel tank, marine, stationary, industrial, and DOT.

Now it would probably cost you 10K in Regen parts.. They run clean though..

Regards
I knew this could be figured out. AND some take advantage of that VERY slight flaw. AND take it a step further.. Wrap with a tapered wire. That’s what got me..

What put me on to this was all the old bussman SBs, blew in the middle. I took me a while to figure that one...

THERE IS NO DIRECTION... LOL Never one end or the other, only the middle... The wrap failure would always be VERY close to the middle... WHY.. No direction in them, sound may not change, only the settling effect of a new fuse.

Put graphene paste on the fuse tips and CLEAN the fuse holder or swap it to a pure silver one. See what happens. Not plated, pure silver. It changes because of the BETTER conductive surfaces, on the fuse because of the paste, and holder because of the material it's made from, silver.

Regards
Nuclear never seize, Graphene, diamond dust (2000), Rislone and, Everclear (180) something close. I break the graphene down and go from there. I dry my concoction with a low heat heat-gun. It stays tacky.
Never corrodes, I’ll tell you that.

BUT it can NEVER drip.. ok.. NEVER.. That is a no, no. Your mix is way off.

That concoction needs to set, and let the 180 evap, ay.. Then a heat gun.. LOW heat, (hair dryer).

To much rislone, or NNS. Its at least 50% graphene. Which is how many more times conductive than say, ANYthing else?

Diamond dust, a cutter, binder an seating compound, VERY little. SUPER insulative. Just the opposite of Graphene. It also causes the graphene to layer thicker, at least the thickness of the dust. You can get 1500 or 1000 too, for a thicker surface layer...

BE CAREFUL... All this stuff is pretty potent... 180.. proof. or poof, be careful..

Regards.
WHY do they sound different? It’s not magic. I’m a mechanic. It has to make sense to me.. If it doesn’t, I’ll figure out why.

I put this fuse in my Mac C20, it sounded different, I swapped direction and I lost a little twinkle. Swapped it back, I lost all the dynamics in the mids and highs, in a word, it became DULL. WHAT happened?

For that C20 to sound dull it has to set for a while, put in a NEW stock fuse, and turn it on. Two three hours to settle in and it sounds pretty good.

What could I have done? I did EXACTLY what the manufacture said NOT to do.. Yes I did, That’s me.. I wiped off the fuse and cleaned it all up, just like the direction said NOT TO... WHY? We’ll get there.

Is there less resistance at one end of the fuse wire inside? Is one end of the filament "tapered" to offer less resistance in one direction? Is the wire TAPERED that is wound around the filament to make a slow blow fuse?

IN CASE you missed it! The filament wire is TAPERED at one end. The wrap wire for a slow blow is tapered all the way to the end.. THEN it is wrapped around the inner filament, BOTH tapered.

Back to the top, I put graphene paste back on the new fuse after a GOOD LOOK!, Installed it in the original direction, listened, pulled the fuse, touched up the ends with paste and installed it sounded good.

NOT 3-4 hour wait.. It sounded GOOD, as good as it ever had, in 15 minutes.

Over the next two weeks, it just got better? WHY?

What is better? The best way to explain is. Sharper, cleaner, more dynamic. BETTER.. WHY? That part someone else can explain.
I haven’t figured that one out yet, or is the paste settling, causing this "better" sound? I think it is. Easy I’ll pull the fuse.. LOL
Not for a while anyways.. I’ll listen for a couple more weeks, before I confirm what I suspect.

THE MAGIC is not magic.

A silly ol, wore out mechanic, figured it out.. The direction mystery is solved..

The paste is super conductive and the filament(S) are tapered. There you have it.. Step up all you EEs Prof and smart guys, wHO EVA, as the English would say.

Regards
My thinking is the dust is VERY sharp, and harder than  the surface material on the fuse and the holder. Second, I'm talking a VERY small potion of dust VERY small. Lets make that clear. My thinking, again, is the particles are spaced pretty far apart, AND the only thing that won't migrate very well BUT enough, not to stack. For the lack of a better term.

Remove the dampening control for 2-300 hours, the dust will cut into the material, until it's "almost" metal to metal and then NOT move again after the dampening is put back in.. That metal to metal and what is left it won't be the dust. Again my thinking..

Just thinkin out loud.. The fuse holders are spring loaded, the question is HOW. The spring can be a problem too, I suppose.

Regards
Thanks I’ll look into that.

This is why my paste works, well. I’m aware that application of graphene is VERY thin, and osmotic (lack of a better term) in nature and works VERY well in a VERY thin layer. MY thinking (but not proven) is those bonds your speaking of (that lattice) form over time after they settle. The longer they settle the thinner and thinner the space between the two surfaces, to the point of the diamond dust thickness.

It continues to seat, WHY? It’s sharp, VERY sharp, and very hard. SUPER abrasive. Soon the two surfaces have squeezed almost everything out between the two surfaces except, WHAT? What’s left, what is left behind, in the thinest coat possible, and bound by that very small portion of diamond dust? That my thinking..Can I prove it? Let me think on it. Can I hear a GOOD result? A result that I like? So far yes..
Have I dug out the electron microscope, to take a peak. NO :-)

Is graphene, plug and play? LOL I dunno!

Give some things a little time, 2-300 hours. Remove the dampening control on the piece too. Just for a time..

Never seize has very conductive properties, it will all move to the place of least resistance. JUST no drips, it’s mixed wrong.

Regards
Rislone, will clean any type of metal surface, DEAP. It is conductive, it is some type of oil (mystery blend). If you just wipe a rusty surface with it it will start to loosen EVERYTHING. Something stuck in a bore, unless it's welded, USUALLY I can get it loose again.. It won't dry up. It's OLD. It smells good. :-)

It's close to 50/50 50% graphene and 50% of the other in close to equal parts, EXEPT the diamond dust VERY little. Just enough 180 to thin it. BOTTLE and cap. A very little bit goes a long long ways. NO DRIPS!

No it is not guaranteed to do anything but cost you money.. BUT it worked for me quite well.

The never seize can be subbed for wolfer coat. Same or close just a German product. EXPENSIVE. 50-80.00 USD a tube (grease tube) 

Regards
Engine treatment. I think I bought a case 45 years ago, I’m still using it..
Still in the old waxed paper oil cans, its old. LOL

I’ve bought it a LOT of times , through the years. 5-6.00 usd a quart.
Save a little put the rest in your car.. Great cleaner. and lub...Quiet anything down..

Regards
Isn't there an effect on the artifacts, in the path?  You know while it's playing, or working? I call it settling in, not the same as breaking in.
I understood it takes a while to form this "skin" in the path, over fuses, screw connection, plugs THROUGH everything, and over everything.

Am I wrong? Something's happening!

A disconnect, and reconnect, a part change, an old cable swap, to an existing system. SETTLING in.

All new or reconditioned, out of the box, hookup and BREAKING in.

Some call it burn it, I don't.

When a system settles, why does it sound different?

Why when a system is breaking in, it changes sound, it some cases 100s and sometimes a thousand or so hours, to finally Break in.

Teflons. Man oh man.

Everything is going great. Your wonderful NEW talented opare, decides to clean all around your system. She mindfly makes a mental note of your speaker cables, disconnects them and cleans. 

She puts everything back perfectly. You come home, set down, turn on the system, let it warm up for 10-15 and start listening.

It sounds different, YOU got an idea, because you've heard things like this before....

Why is it 3-4 hours in the winter and 2 hours at least in the summer, for things to settle beck in.. If it has that graphene stuff, forget about it. A week. I NEVER use it on a working joint, With locks maybe, a new wall socket.. 
  
I did the inside of a valve amp, recently, it's going back into service, left was done the right is not...Anything that was coupled in the power supply path right to the transformer (s). Everything from that point on is soldered.. I'm thinking valve pins too, gotta help, heat and a contact enhancer.

I wonder what it will be like, if it will make a difference.. It can't hurt..NO DRIPS.. LOL

Regards
Hands in my pockets, kicking a rock, my cheeks are all red!! Shoot!

Merci beaucoup.. :-)

wolfie62
108 posts11-16-2020 9:50pm

The Emperor has no clothes!

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I’ll leave out the rest of your post. I want to give some of it back (if you don’t mind). You’ve post so few time and you have to knock on this door..LOL. It’s just fine come on in..

Jack Harrier wrote a version of that. RIP BUT there was no name callin’,

I enjoy everyone’s input, in spite of the delivery. You CAN make your point without insult.
I see you as an intelligent person. Note: intelli "GENT". I only ask as a courtesy to everyone.. Please be a Gentleman, and share if you don’t mind. Keep in mind, I’m not, anything but a common person, with a ’tinkers" passion.

I can stand corrected, with a humble attitude. But the insults, can I please return them to their rightful owner? A gift none the less but one I choose to return.. Thankyou it’s the thought that counts.

With great regard and respect... Teach me.. WHY does it work?
NOT it does not. I gave you a reason why, it act directional, I gave you the reasoning why and HOW the concoction, becomes thinner and thinner, for a lack of a better term. How it sounds different, how it changes.. BETTER is not the term I wanted to convey, DIFFERENT is. It was better to me.. maybe not others. everyone is different..

It is GRAPHENE, and Graphite, in the NNS, copper, lead, molyb, teflon, and few other things..

Don’t call folks liars, it’s RUDE, if you don’t mind. You can have that back too.. thanks though..

I didn’t ask what you were taught. I ask what YOU LEARNED, from what you were taught. The earth, was flat too, at one time. REPETE, that was not what I was looking for, but thanks none the less. It’s not like it hasn’t been said before. The question is, will anyone respond other than to feel insulted? Me, no one can get my goat.. I already have one.. Buy your own...My buddies name is Bill, I’m sure YOU would get along just fine. HE ATE MY HAT......:-0

Just a common fella.. Fella!

Regards
Thanks for looking, not reading, and posting.

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jjss491,373 posts11-18-2020 10:25am

what a waste of bandwidth

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I ask that YOU at least help me with my bandwidth abomination, the less the better, RIGHT...

If you don’t mind, I’ll return the gift, to the one that gave it.

It’s all welcome, just not all accepted.. Thanks though.

Time to fix the Hen’s house..

With great respect, and regard.
LOL don't tell um all the secrets...Just kidding.. Yea. there is a reason for my thinking. It may seem a little far fetched, but, some things do just work. Very well I might add. Zink is a serious product used in marine and internal combustion cooling systems.. Iron has got to have a way to eliminate (STOP) galvanization and electrolysis.  Couldn't stop pinholes from forming EVERYWHERE, without it. LOL That same corrosion doesn't happen with this concoction.  Worked for 20 years, living next to the ocean. The case might disintegrate, but the fuse holder will be intact..
Stops carbon tracks from STARTING, the key. :-)

Staying out of trouble, NOT getting out of trouble.. Simple thinkin' ay?

Regards
It could be full of anything, and a whole lot more I wouldn’t know.. I use it for the cleaning, and the corrosive inhibitors.

Diamond dust too, it is a great insulator, just what I don’t need, in the wrong amounts..The right amounts, different story..

OH and I like the smell, TOO.

There is a few things in NNS listed as "other" too, I’m pretty sure the stuff I’m using is just crammed full of STUFF not on the label. I mean it was 50 years old 50 years ago. I know there is silver in some of the OLD brands, too. You won’t find it in there now. A LOT of the products are scared to death about lead too. Little late now..

Beside, that word... Makes my head just throb...

I’m a MEK, or R12 kind of guy... The Doctor told me I something wrong with my heart. I said oh A "HEART ATTACK", he said, yea that’s the just of it. Of course the word, made my head hurt, TOO.
I thought we were talkin’ about my heart, why is my head hurtin?

I mean why do they call WD40, WD40? There are TWO correct answers.  One popular, one a lot closer to reality. 
I have a feeling you know the 3rd answer few know about.. Just an observation.

Regards
Poor conductor? It’s better than lead, close to brass, better than iron, tungsten, is better.

Better than the end of a fuse? LOL Duno Depends on the fuse.

Put it on one end and not the other?

Can you see electricity?

Regards
There is NOTHING abrasive about Rislone. Man oh Man, it's VERY thin for one thing. It's got the be 5 weight, or less. I've pored that into a seized block. Two cases. Every two quarts I added mineral spirits, until it came out the dipstick, poured it down the intake until it flowed over. Injectors OUT. I let it set, for a week.  Once a day on a shaker for 15 min or so..

It turned over by hand within two weeks. I was able to run a compression test. One hole didn't come up to scratch..  One liner, One piston, one set of rings, one pan gasket, one head gasket, rocker cover, and one valve cover. Under 500.00, for the Rislone, Engine, and the parts. 14,000.00 for a long block..plus labor.. They charged us for loading the block, and the weight. 250-300.usd

Still running as an on site, dump, last I heard. Saved an easy 15K. RISLONE!  30 years ago.

Marvel Mystery Oil is a great diesel fuel additive.. Again I like the smell!

Regards

audio2design
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WAY off topic but, a question, if you don’t mind.

Reel to Reel, you ever tinker with the medium?

You got any pointers, you could share, with the recording side and the playback side. Types of tape that are better, NOW, if you know.

RTR better? I don’t care, one way or the other, I just want to make it better. Mine is just coming out of storage after 20 years... I need the magic back... Tinker fest, time...

The RTR tube stage is being modded from the TT stage that’s in the que for build right now... Decware. I like the idea! Not to tecky..

I have a head out tap on one unit.. Otani MX50/50 BII, your thoughts on that type of playback system?

You got any STUFF to share? I know you do.. NOW SHARE...:-)

I'm running 2 track, BUT thinkin' of a 3rd head, for recording and playback... You up to date on that little trick, I'm NOT.....I just heard about it from some hip hop head, RAPPIN, BASS head kid..  LOL He's into messing with the mixxin'

Regards
I also understand AC goes back and forth, now ADD the rest.

Think of a ratchet, it moves both directions, (back and forth), BUT only advances in ONE direction. I know it's working because the meter spins ay! LOL It's not going back and forth. It spins backward, only when I put more in than I take out, Solar...

I like the Mr. Rodger approach, not the Nikola Tesla, though I admire the latter for his "NO LIMIT" thinking.

I don't know, I'm just a common man, AY

Regards
It's 120 Vac, and not 110 for quite a while. A lot of the same people that quote what they have learned, seem to forget APPLIED sometimes thing aren't what they seem. I worked on heavy equipment for 45 years. Mainly VDC. You think I cared about the direction of the fuse. I worked on gen sets, BOTH DC (transport side) AC the work side.. I just wanted the right fuse. Direction?

This is my stereo. Not only can I hear the difference. It is a pretty significant. 4 other people sat in on the session, while  I blind sided them, with fuse swaps. I had one in a mono block left side, not the other side. 
2 weeks I let BOTH settle with their fuses, One orange SR. One busman.

I set up another pair of Class D with NO FUSES, inline.. removed. Silver wire, bridged the AC coming in, AROUND the fuse holder.

They had no memory of anything, I change gear every time they come over. 2 three times a year..

Thing about sound, you CAN talk yourself into hearing something or NOT, even worse.  

EX: It's fixed, I can't hear anything... AS it blows up... Time after time denial is even worse... I can hear EVERY little change vs, I can't discern the difference... Unfortunately, both are a pain for a guy like me...

ONLY the facts, not perceived, one way or the other is VERY rare indeed. We want it to sound "better" after all that work.. LOL

I'll also say "let me listen for a while" you can change your OWN mind if you look for a change. Looking and HEARING are two different things...

I'll concede, "better", not always, but different, very often..

Regards