How have I missed out for soooo long!!!!


So I just picked up a TT that would work properly with my Marantz PM-11s3... Nothing special because what I had heard out of my last TT left me not really wanting to pursue vinyl and continue collecting redbook and SACD.
Anyway my 86yo father was coming in town and bringing some of his old favorite albums along with his great stories of a time past. He is the best story teller I swear and what hooks him is hearing his old music, it always takes him back!
This was the opportunity for me to upgrade to a TT that would let my Marantz use its phono stage and shine... And has it! I ditched the old budget Marantz TT for another rather budget TT in a Pro-Ject S2. But the real deal is that now the PM-11s3 is handling the the pre-amp chores and oh my God!!!!
How is it that no one in the last 30 years has asked “have you tried vinyl on that system?”
I am completely blown away at the performance of this entry TT and now am convinced that just after two days I will be at my HI-FI Shop tomorrow to order something much more in line with my system!
I played Diana Krall “Live in Paris” streamed through my Sonos connect via Deezer, then through my Marantz UD7007 on DVD, and then on the Pro-Ject TT.... The TT was the winner hands down! How have I missed out for so long!
Now I have to go get the SACD of this performance to see where it really stacks up but as of right now I’m hooked!
Here is to my father through his own way bringing ME back to a better time and I’m really enjoying it!

264win
Good for you. Now imagine what's possible with even better gear!
So nice to have such a father! What kind of music does he hear?
Great story, thank you for that. Keep enjoying your father's story's and him as they are both treasures. Enjoy the music.
Thanks guys! You are right, they are treasures. I went out and bought more Vinyl today so we can continue our music time together....
You’re fortunate to have such a great relationship with your Dad. 

What a great compliment to your Father, and a great post to share.

Enjoy!

Love this story, thank you for sharing! So good!
If you like it now, wait till you hear it with a decent phono stage. It sounds like you were using a turntable that had a built-in phono stage, which would explain your comments as those are crap. But now you are using the stage in the Marantz receiver, which is one small step up from crap. Which is actually the good news, as the huge step up you heard is with a phono stage on a card in a receiver, something easily beaten hands down no contest by virtually any stand alone phono stage. Of course then you will have to add a decent quality interconnect. But that is your weak link at the moment, the phono stage. Upgrade that and be amazed all over again.

Oh and since you asked, the reason no one ever suggested trying the TT is everyone has been brainwashed to the delusion its old tech not worth the time. Only takes a few minutes actually listening to destroy that one, as you now know. But hardly anyone takes the time. Good on you for making the effort.
millercarbon....Why can't you just let the OP just enjoy what he has discovered instead of suggesting what "could have been"? I like to think that people posting on these forums like to share their personal opinions or offer suggestions for improvements. Not the place for that here. There are ALWAYS ways to improvement but this particular post isn't the place to do it. Let the guy seek his own improvements in the future but don't diminish the joy he is experiencing now.
my Dad had a cow when I came home with a Denon and a Grado instead of the Dual / Shure he sent me out to get, until he listened...Pops turned me on to music and hifi gear, thanks and RIP

so glad you and Dad are enjoying vinyl... make every minute count
It's Miller time.......
@264win, vinyl really is surprising. I returned to it a few years back when my mom needed to move into assisted living. I recovered my original Thorens, ling stored in her house, that I slaved an entire summer to buy working as a golf caddy. I was 14. Anyway, once I got that hooked up, it also blew me away and brought me back to my old interest in hifi. What a great hobby. While my dad definitely had a system that got me initially interested, our music tastes at the time were very different. 
If he were still alive, we would  now share many of the same musical tastes. I wish I had the amazing opportunity you now do. Enjoy the memories you are making with him. Not all of us have that chance. Precious! 
Great story! Thank you for sharing! Enjoy your listening!!
Thanks for sharing your joy and congratulations on your Project S-2 purchase.

I am wondering as well, how have you lived with a subpar Sonos Connect for 2 years? You were advised to replace the Sonos to better your digital experience......

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/what-should-my-next-upgrade-be-your-best-experience

Comparing Sonos/Deezer with a decent TT is a unfair comparison. The Connect in its stock form is pretty much ‘garbage in garbage out’.
Try hearing Top digital through a great vacuum tube dac.
Lampizator recently came out with the new Amber-3 dac 
it has a bunch of trickle down technologies from their top $25k pacific dac for under $3k delivered enjoy the music.com recently reviewed it 5 stars across the board for music. And a 14 day return if not happy Very analog sounding with excellent detail in some cases betterthen vinyl, and you can make it better still ,good aftermarket fuse, good power cord, and upgrading the rectifier tube and the 12au7 tube , the ecc99 super tube is very good .
this makes it better still Brent Jesse  recording I get my vintage nos tubes .i sold my $6k psaudio flagshipdac to buy this dac much more 3D realism !!
Enjoy your setup, and avoid chasing something that doesn’t exist.

There is always a bigger fish, faster car, nicer house, better stereo and more striking blonde. (I’m partial to blondes)

Spend your energy, time, and money on the people in your life and buy gear when you have some spare time.

You’ve hit the lottery with your Dad, keep recreating that in your life and you’ve won this silly race.

Old Uncledemp wouldn’t steer you wrong. 
Audioman, how does this relate to the Original Post?  Let the man enjoy his music without trying to convince him to buy more stuff!

Good for you, OP.  Enjoy the music, and share with your dad and anyone else who will listen!  These fools who want you to part with your money are jealous you like what you have (at least for now).  If you want to spend some money in a good way, buy more albums.  And enjoy!

audioman581,410 posts
10-15-2019 4:40am

Try hearing Top digital through a great vacuum tube dac.
Lampizator recently came out with the new Amber-3 dac
it has a bunch of trickle down technologies from their top $25k pacific dac for under $3k delivered enjoy the music.com recently reviewed it 5 stars across the board for music. And a 14 day return if not happy Very analog sounding with excellent detail in some cases betterthen vinyl, and you can make it better still ,good aftermarket fuse, good power cord, and upgrading the rectifier tube and the 12au7 tube , the ecc99 super tube is very good .
this makes it better still Brent Jesse  recording I get my vintage nos tubes .i sold my $6k psaudio flagshipdac to buy this dac much more 3D realism !!

Welcome to the dark side.... :)
My guess is the SACD will sound close to the turntable ..... although both SACD and TT depend a lot on the quality and accuracy of their sub-components.  That's been my experience playing a TT with a properly loaded Accuphase AC-2 cartridge and a Counterpoint preamp, vs. an Oppo 105.
Thanks for everyone sharing there stories... My father just went home after three weeks. It’s always something when you get that precious time with them!
We spent evenings listening to his old vinyl (old 50’s country, jazz, blue grass, and folk). And his stories, priceless! I hope we all get to enjoy music like this with the ones we love!

I have already ordered a new TT and cables. I’m opting to stay with Marantz in their TT-15s1

@millercarbon   
Im not sure if you’ve heard/listened to Marantz Reference components but the PM-11s3 is one heck of a integrated! It’s phono stage is very well reviewed, so to say it’s one step above crap is a little out of line. Now I’m not saying where it competes in the grand scheme of things but if it makes a $500 TT sound this good it’s probably pretty good!

https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/marantz-reference-series-pm-11s3-integrated-amplifier-and-...

https://www.audioholics.com/amplifier-reviews/marantz-pm-11s3