I like everything from north Mississippi hill country blues to Hank Sr to 50s/60s jazz (bop, free, modal, experimental) to psych rock to classic rock to indie to alt country to prog to Radiohead to Morphine to 80s alternative to shoegaze to folk to Fugazi to Americana to George Jones. There's only two kinds of music - good and bad.
I dont have now preference for jazz, classical or any other styles...
The main important factor is the musician....Or some instruments....
I dont listen classic or jazz , instead i listen musician x on instrument z....Or the singer voicing....
Because the truest musical experience is not confined in a genre or style at all....And that include all cultures for me....
I must confess that i hate musical styles that are more a genre with no historical roots than a way to create great music by great grounded musicians tough.... I will not offend anyone with naming some....
Fairly, I guess?
Various subgenres of jazz, blues, and rock. Folk. Americana. Choral. Opera. Some classical. Some country.
Not many things just leave me completely cold. I've never found any metal that appeals to me. Fusion sounds like bad jazz and worse rock, to me, but I do like some jazz-folk fusion (Bela Fleck, Goat Rodeo). I'll go as far as In A Quiet Way, and that's about it. Those are about the only ones I can think of.
Well, if you can take a joke....there was a lady DJ that said in a deep Southern accent...
"we play both kinds of music, we play your country and your western"
My father was a self taught Guitar player and was a fan of Hank senior. I went to many Rock concerts, and many live Jazz concerts and from Summerfest in Milwaukee to The Rainbow Room in NYC and others around the U.S. and some other countries.
As the Danes would spell it, Kobenhavn is a great place for American Jazz.
As I look over my CD/SACD collection, it does seem to be dominated by some of the great female singers in American history that do mainly standards, Jazz and songs that are...a bit, romantic.
If the music is made with heart and skill, I really don't care what the genre is. From opera to chamber music to punk to pop to soul to jazz to MOR to hip-hop, etc., etc., etc., if the delivery is compelling enough I can't help but listen. My music collection covers all genres. Love show tunes, too.
I’m all over the map of genres depending on my mood. For me, I know a song is timelessly beautiful if I get that tingling down my spine. If it happens once it will happen every time. I’m getting that feeling as I type this listening to the 36 minutes version of the Grateful Dead’s Dark Star on “Celebrating Jerry Garcia and the Days In Between”. I get that tingle every time I hear “shall we go, you and I while we can...throooooough the transitive nightfall of diamonds” (“Live Albums Collection”, “Live Dead” as I’ve always known it, has my favorite version, though, where the engineer is best balanced. Funny to think it was an afterthought album because they had to make a contractual obligation last minute). Sweet musical bliss. Transcendence.
I tend to go deep into certain areas that tickle my fancy. When I was a kid the electric blues led me to the rural blues, most of which was cut on 78s so I relied on 33LP transcriptions and compilations. Some electric blues from the period (Chicago; early UK on the cusp of psych) still turns me on--I’m a big fan of Kossoff, especially Free’s first album, where Guy Stevens was given free rein on the production. Subsequently, Chris Blackwell stepped in, and the band has a more produced sound.
Another area that caught my interest a few years ago was so-called "spiritual jazz" which is now very hot as a marketplace commodity-- it borders on free jazz, modal, post-bop and soul, often recorded on private or small independent labels, but the musicians are consummate players (most of them could not get work in the early ’70s once jazz was no longer a mainstream medium and worked largely as sidemen). There are some brilliant performances by some known (Cecil McBee) and unknown (Milt Ward) artists.
I also like heavy early rock, which has now been rebranded as proto-metal. It’s the stuff that coincides with early Sabbath, sometimes earlier, and anticipates heavy metal but doesn’t have shredded guitars (hate that with my carrots too) or Cookie Monster vocals. Leaf Hound’s Growers of Mushroom is probably the most famous. But there are many, many more-- bands you never heard of that had that Zepp-ish, Sabbathy, Purple-ish sound. Another famous one might be the German first pressing of Lucifier’s Friend- s/t.
I’ll listen to anything once. I’m not much for opera largely out of ignorance. I have a vast trove of high quality classical records that I rarely listen to these days, but every once in a while, I’ll pull one out.
Otherwise, it could be Eddie Hazel, or Cressida's Asylum. Go figure.
Well, let's just open up Pandora's box a have a look inside to see if there are any toys in the attic shall we? I enjoy a broad range of music which begins with mostly prog. rock but also includes such things as singer songwriter music like the livestream concert this weekend from Ariane Lydon to without a doubt the absolute best version of Leonard Cohen's Halleluja I have ever heard from any artist anywhere by a guy from Minneapolis named Andrew Newton. The guy just understood the song.
From there we can move to British folk which includes music from one of the best female singers of all time, Sandy Denny and Fotheringay. Then on to electronic music from artists such as Brian Eno, Redshift and Wave World and piano from Phillip Aaberg. I don't really care too much for traditional jazz but I consider Patricia Barber to be one of the most creative jazz artists alive today. I also enjoy music from Andreas Vollenweider.
I like guitar shredders such as Buckethead and Slash but also Tony Levin, Adrian Belew and the Oracle himself Mr. Robert Fripp. I also can't leave out Robin Trower. I like blues but don't really listen to it much. A little Keb Mo and of course Mr. John Lee Hooker. I also enjoy female vocalists from Janice Ian to Joni Mitchell, Tori Amos and Natalie Merchant, Patti Smith and Bonnie Raitt. I'm equally as comfortable with anything from Acoustic Alchemy to Alice in Chains to Southern rock and jam bands. What I don't care for is Rap, Hip Hop, Traditional Jazz, Opera, Pop and Country......although I like The Band. That ought to be enough toys to keep one busy for a while!
PS. Did I mention world music such as Afro Celt Sound System and Aurora? ;-)
your comment “I’ll listen to anything once. I’m not much for opera largely out of ignorance.” caught my eye. Check out the outstandingly engineered and my go-to opera compilation classic and see what you think... “Pavarotti - 24 Greatest HD Tracks” in the 24 bit/96KHz version. It brings tears to my eyes whenever I play it. It’s best at higher volumes :).
Check out the outstandingly engineered and my go-to opera compilation classic and see what you think... “Pavarotti - 24 Greatest HD Tracks” in the 24 bit/96KHz version.
I mentioned I do enjoy opera, and this conversation reminds me that I should clarify something about that. I enjoy recordings of *performances* of operas. I'm not a huge fan of records that are just recordings of opera[tic] music.
That's nothing against parker's recommendation here. I imagine it's great. The conversation just reminded me that *my* opera taste is a bit specific.
With opera you really don’t need to understand the words, but to listen to an entire opera I do feel one must know the story and it is then still enjoyable not knowing the language. I levitate for sure more to compilations where I’m comfortable just feeling each piece. Pavarotti’s voice was truly a planetary treasure. I saw him in the last phase of his performance live at the acoustically “not as bad as other arenas” Denver Pepsi Center and was absolutely astounding with the breadth of his vocals. His stage presence was by far the largest I’ve ever witnessed. Which reminds me of the first time I saw Tony Bennett - from the “halo” balcony at The Denver Opera House (Ellie Caulkins Opera House). Acoustics there are incredible. As part of the encore, Tony had the house turn off all mics and he sung “Fly Me To The Moon”. What a moment in life to remember. It was truly for me a “religious experience”. Both experiences literally brought tears to my eyes. Not an easy feat :).
Amadeus to Zappa - Indeed
I have this debate all the time with my audio consultant. He listens to god awful music (in my not so humble opinion) because it was recorded well and sounds great on the systems he demos. I listen to the musician and their music whether it was recorded in 1928 or 2020. How can I not listen to Blind Willie Johnson's Dark Was The Night (Cold Was The Ground) and not be moved. I can only take Jack White's music in limited doses, but I sure like him as an artist, musician and love his business models. Yep, the recent classical releases on Analogue Productions are inspiring as well. Then again, save those 36 minute Dark Star's from bootleg tapes for when you are in the mood - because that was a band made in shangri la! Those Dark Star versions are like Keith Jarrett's live solo piano work - you just never know where it will lead you.
Anybody see that article in TAS a few issues back about the three types of music listeners? It was a great article that sums us up perfectly. I'll see if I can find that article again.
I've been enjoying a lot of female vocalists lately because they sound so good on my system. Some recordings are from the 1950's.
BUT, my collection has no room, none, for rap and hip-hop. That is not music. Bad Poetry to boring syncopated drum solos - best description yet.
Pretty eclectic lol. I struggle with country music as well as corporate pop music, and don't like jazz but, aside from that I love Die Antwoord to Bach, Pink Floyd to Sex Pistols, Christopher Cross to Tool, Broadway musicals to The Proclaimers, The Who to Gogol Bordello. Hundreds of CDs and now thousands of tunes and hundreds of artists in TIDAL.
Thrash/death/black metal, blues, rock, 60s’ rock, country.
some 80’s fast techno (rave music)
1812 overture on my CV D9’s’
some classical through my Energy rc-70s’
iPod for light drinking listening.
its on shuffle:
abba (when wife home)
Some 80’s rap, not on iPod. The neighborhood, life, political stuff,not the newer garbage.
many others not listed. Elvis
@Parker65310- thanks for that. I may get a copy, I'm far less deep on digital than I am on vinyl. I purged about 12,000 record when I moved and did another purge more recently-- largely to make room for, you guessed it-- more records! But, I do have the ability to play an SACD if the compilation you mentioned is available in that medium. For files, I'm rather limited by my DAC to standard Rez.
Part of it is precisely what some others mentioned- I know there are diehard opera fans, I just found it hard to get my head around, great performances notwithstanding. best,
For me music is literally the soundtrack to life. The pieces that hit me like a ton of bricks and hook me forever always instantly take me back to when I first heard them or had a memorable experience such as when I first heard Mazzy Star - Fade Into You in the flagship Tower Records in NYC (sadly no longer exists) when it first came out or when I saw Trentemoller play live solo on the xylophone Miss You at The Ogden in Denver or when for the very first time ever I heard Jeff Beck play Cause We Ended As Lovers. I wanted to drop on my knees like I saw god standing in front of me. That was incredibly the first time I had ever heard that song. All I can say is wow. Speaking of which, just the mention of Moby by me yesterday brought me back to him. I find his ambient and his club/rock powerful. His cut Harbour with Sinead O’Connor on 18 & 18 B-sides blows me away every time I hear it and the engineering is excellent. She is such a talented person with a tortured soul. I could keep typing for hours, but there’s what is front of mind for me at this moment.
if it ain't rap or new country, i can dig it at least a bit. there was this old cat named major "mule" holley who had a contrabass voice, he was a string bass player and could sing down low in unison with his instrument, unlike slam stewart who sang an octave higher. it was an almost eerie effect that, when frank sinatra first heard it, made him grin ear to ear.
Lets just mark out the last 2 live concerts I saw in 2019........
King Crimson 50th in Oakland Ca.( they played "Fracture" for their only time in N.America that year)........................and BTS.........the #1 kpop boy band.....whose song " Mic Drop"...is as good as any Rock Anthem of the 70s......
For me, music is an important part of life, a way to relax and unwind, cheer up, get aesthetic pleasure. But I always listen to different music, rock, pop, classics, it all depends on the mood. It happens that I don’t listen to music for a couple of days, just because I don’t want to.
When I was younger, music appeared to be an enormous playground awaiting exploration.
As I've aged, however, it's become very evident that the size of the playground is somewhat of a moot point, given the fact that my capacity for approaching and appreciating unfamiliar music is not only a significantly limiting factor but deeply ingrained. The origin/foundation of aesthetic preference is mysterious, whether we're talking music, food, poetry, dogs, cars, furniture or sexual partners. I watched a video yesterday by a guy who loves canned mackeral sandwiches. . . but even more than mackeral sandwiches, he loves the bones, which he sets aside and hordes as a special treat. What's normal to him appears bizarre from my perspective. And no doubt, vice versa.
I'd like to be able to assert that I'm open to anything but it's simply not true. The fact is, I avoid entire genres.
I suppose what it comes down to is, I'd simply rather spend my listening time playing stuff I know will give me the maximum of pleasure.
This doesn't mean I've stopped discovering artists I like, however. It just means I tend to look for them in genres I already enjoy.
This is an interesting subject for me.
To begin with, there have been several good studies that show, that the vast majority of people’s tastes in music are set by the time they are 30. People listen to the music that was their favorite when they were between the age of about 14 and their mid 20’s, with a bit more new music for a few more years.
I have been told by some, that I have eclectic tastes, and by others, that I am closed minded. I am in my early 60’s, to give some context. And I am always in the hunt for new music.
My issue is, I only enjoy music that has most of the following attributes: very high level of musicianship, complexity, broad range of emotional content, (usually) long form structure, does not follow verse>chorus>bridge>repeat format.
Music that does not have the above, tends to bore me. I can’t force myself to enjoy music that does not fit the parameters I like in music.
Music genres and subgenres that fit my parameters, are:
Jazz (fusion, post-bop, jazz-metal, chamber-jazz, M-Base, avant-garde)
Classical (mostly post mid 20th century, avant-garde, contemporary, some minimalism, spectralism, serialism)
Prog (avant-prog, technical-metal, Zeuhl, classic era, prog-metal)
I can easily go from listening to Mahavishnu Orchestra (fusion), to Arnold Schoenberg (12 tone classical), to The Contortionist (technical-metal), to Univers Zero (avant-garde prog) in the same listening session.
I also have a bit of a growing interest in blue grass, and Indian classical music.
I am willing to listen to pretty much any genre of music with an open mind, but if it doesn’t have the above listed attributes, chances are I won’t enjoy it.
I have pretty much no interest in: pop, mainstream rock, rap, hip-hop, country, blues.
To begin with, there have been several good studies that show, that the vast majority of people’s tastes in music are set by the time they are 30.We have almost the same taste....
I must say that these studies illustrate well the general tendency to stop all interior evolution by the age of 30....
Many people are already "dead" or fixated in their evolution by 30 years of age....
This is why music is almost all a "nostalgia" business...
The musical evolution reflect only the general evolution of an individual, because music is not about "taste" so much , it is about the levels of perception....
There is not so much "taste" in music really, only level of perceptions with some preference ...
I must say that these studies illustrate well the general tendency to stop all interior evolution by the age of 30....
Yep, taste in movies, visual art, tend to be set by about the same age, with a bit more flexibility.
And since I have almost zero nostalgia connected to music, I remain open to new music. Music I listened to during my youth, either lives or dies in my mind, based entirely on its musical merit. I don't care how great the times were for me when I listened to specific recordings, if they don't hold up with regards to those attributes I mentioned in my previous post.
I constantly see on other music forums (stevehofflman), people claiming there is no good music made anymore. When the fact is, I have trouble keeping up with all the new, great music being released. I guess that is a first world problem.
Not to mention, the constant new threads there, about The Beatles, Stones, Dylan, CSNY, etc, etc.
Perception, as I see it, has little to do with assigning "value".
Perception is simply utilizing awareness-- noticing what is present.
On the other hand, "Taste", as I see it, is a spontaneous internal physiological/emotional response to what is perceived.
For example, two people could both perceive the same constituent aspects of a complex wine yet differ in terms of whether it appealed to them or not. In other words, they are noticing the same sensory aspects but are affected differently by them.
I'd like to better understand what you mean, when you say:
"The musical evolution reflect only the general evolution of an individual, because music is not about "taste" so much , it is about the levels of perception....
There is not so much "taste" in music really, only level of perceptions with some preference ..."
Care to elucidate further??????
For example, two people could both perceive the same constituent aspects of a complex wine yet differ in terms of whether it appealed to them or not. In other words, they are noticing the same sensory aspects but are affected differently by them.Music is not REDUCIBLE to wine tasting and preferences...
Music is mirror of mind and consciousness... Wine tasting chemistry reflect and mirror ONLY the body physiology and individual history...
Music is NOT sound but THROUGH sound...
Some music are like mathematics, it ask for some new mind level operation...
Some music are like spiritual experience it ask for a new connection of body and sound and a new connection between heart and meaning....
Tastes are important and habits too.... But making ourself open toward the higher level of meaning and perception is the way to transform ourself, and no more ONLY pleasure ourself...
It is a bit like sex and love. sex is great, but sex habits are nothing compared to love....
Music is not pleasurable sound no more than love is only sex....
But i like pleasurable sound and i have my taste...
I only observe that in ly life at some point i discovered new way to connect to sound and new way to perceive music...
Then yo ask you in a word: taste exist on ONE level, perception exist on MANY levels....
Educating ourself CHANGE our perception level, and enlarge our original taste to new one...
I wish you the best and thank you for your interest....
Thank you for your response.
When you say:
"taste exist on ONE level, perception exist on MANY levels...:
do you mean that Consciousness exists at many levels and what we call "taste" (ego-centered "likes and dislikes") exists at one level ?
When you say:
"I only observe that in ly life at some point i discovered new way to connect to sound and new way to perceive music..",
do you mean that you are regarding music from the perspective of Consciousness (the aspect of you that is not limited by the ego's preferences? )...
...or am I completely misunderstanding you ?
do you mean that Consciousness exists at many levels and what we call "taste" (ego-centered "likes and dislikes") exists at one level ?Yes we dont know generally, because we are not enough sensitive, what we really love....It takes a life history for our mind to mature and know ourself...
"Taste" are like crocodile habit to eat, they come with our body physiology and habits history...We cannot only live with our natural taste and habits...
Our consciousness exist at least on 2 levels...
do you mean that you are regarding music from the perspective of Consciousness (the aspect of you that is not limited by the ego’s preferences? )...Yes...
But you must remember that all musical forms exist already in an history, which reflected an history of consciousness itself...
Then exploring Australian aborigenal music or Scriabin is exploring our own consciousness levels...
It is impossible to constraint ourself to "like" some new music...But we can permeate ourself with history, cultures, meanings and opening our own mind to new levels of listening and new level of consciousness...
Gong music, or Kurt Weill , or Bach, or sufi music etc all is part of the human soul....
We can use music for our pleasure but also to explore ourself....
Music is so powerful and save for the last 30 years was vastly underestimated in his power to transform soul/heart/body....Except by genius like Bach, Beethoven, Scriabin among others that use it to really transform human consciousness...After shamans, Hildegard of Bingen, buddhist monks, sufis, and many others
Regards and best wishes....
Interesting topic. I listen to music pretty much every single day of the year. Whether driving, working, or going to sleep at night I find music a most relaxing and healing experience. I listen to many different sub genres of progressive rock. I’m very much into the progressive rock genre. This includes the Classical, Symphonic, Eclectic, Heavy, Psychedelics/Space, Rock Progressivo Italiano, Extreme Prog Metal, Post Progressive, Neo, Crossover, Folk, Jazz/Fusion, Canterbury, Experimental, Blues and Protoprog subgenres etc.
I want to thank the original poster for bringing up this topic. I’ve always loved music. I can remember hearing my father play The Beatles and Deep Purple as a young child. Then my Uncles and bands Ike Led Zeppelin, Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis(Peter Gabriel fronted.), and Jethro Tull. Also the radio and bands like King Crimson, Jimi Hendrix, and Emerson Lake and Palmer. I loved music the moment I heard it and had a particular taste immediately. Never did I like the music of the moment. I was always a Prog and Classic Rock lover. The punk, disco and new wave fades etc did nothing for me. I’m in no way putting down anyones particular preverance for musical genres. Just commenting on how music is ingrained in my DNA.
Well, I was going to get into more of the different bands I now listen to. Instead I delved into a little bit of everything. I’ve been through a lot in life and this continues, such is life. Music is healing and helps me get through the ups and downs of life as well as providing a healthy way of passing the time or adding to the time. An all around good outlet and continuing experience. Happy Holidays to all. I could start a whole new topic on Christmas music and how hearing this reminds me of growing up and family. There’s a magic to Christmas music all its own. Peace and Good Will to all.
My taste is all over the board. Genres I do not listen to are metal, alternative rock, industrial, classical (I do enjoy OST's), free jazz, rap (except for Run The Jewels). Most everything else is on the menu.
My listening sessions usually begin with '50s-'60s lounge music and muzak, bluegrass, classic country, and hawaiian. Transitioning to indie rock, indie pop, shoegaze, new age, folk, celtic, polka, world music. Finishing with disco, dance, ambient, psychedelic electronic.
I love great artists, I even discover some in heavy metal, a genre i dont favor usually...
Then genre distinction means nothing...
Artists dont member in a genre club, they are only what they are : greeat artist...
Christian music or sufi music , heavy metal, rap, nerver mind...
Great souls are great souls...
Tastes are part of ourself, but artists generally overpower our limited habits...
Save if we live in a trancelike habit world....
I just like a great song, sung by a good or better singer, played by a good or better band. Is that too much to ask? ;-)
In the first cubicle of my LP racks are albums by Curtiss A, ABBA, AC/DC, Roy Acuff, Arthur Alexander, Mose Allison, The Alpha Band (T Bone Burnett, David Mansfield, and Steven Soles), Dave & Phil Alvin, Al Anderson (pre- and post-NRBQ), The Animals (before Eric Burton became psychedelicized), Joan Armatrading, Asylum Choir (Marc Benno and Leon Russell), and Mike Auldridge (master dobro player).
Then there are my CD racks.