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I won't be editorialized by you."
I suppose we're both free to call it like we see it.
Duke
I suppose we're both free to call it like we see it.
Duke
Showing 8 responses by audiokinesis
@erik_squires , you already posted a link to your blog page where you wrote: " I am no longer a fan of this idea [distributed bass array/muliple subs] due to the fan boys and how cultish they have become. " And now you post: "... I often challenge the DBA cultists..." This is starting to look like trolling, Erik. Maybe you can advocate for your preferred solution without name-calling? Duke |
So some of you may be wondering which actually makes the biggest improvement, adding bass traps or adding more subs. Since bass trap advocate Erik Squires is playing the "cultist" card to discredit multi-sub advocates, I’m gonna play one of my cards. It’s an "acoustician" card. Matt Poes of Poes Acoustics, who doesn’t sell subs but who gets paid to install bass traps, briefly compares his experiences with bass traps vs multiple subs, as far as effectiveness below 80 Hz. Takes thirty-two seconds to listen to. From 37:37 to 38:09. Click on the link, suffer through the inevitable ad, and it’s already cued up: https://youtu.be/shHY7EHY4MA?t=2257 I have zero affiliation with Matt. Duke distributed multi-sub system manufacturer since 2006 (so take me with as many grains of salt as you need to) |
" I’m not having a squabble at all...." Got it. Erik, you are fixated on your grievances towards audiophiles who prefer something which is arguably "in competition with" your favorite thing (room treatments), and so you interpret their enthusiasm in the worst possible light: " 1 - Refusal to accept other solutions are possible or more applicable to specific questions by posters." Really? "REFUSAL to accept other solutions are POSSIBLE"?? Show me Erik. I think you are exaggerating, and even IF one person did that, why the "distaste" for all? " 2 - Insistence on the swarm being a solution to everything a poster asks about, regardless of application. "Help I have noise on my left channel." 30 seconds later ... "You need a swarm!" " This is just immature exaggeration. And if not, then show me, Erik!! " 3 - Lying about what other prominent professionals have stated. " Show me, Erik! Don’t just make a nebulous accusation of lying, show me! And while you’re at it, maybe explain to Big Greg why your distaste extends to him, because obviously that is the impression you gave him. Or else make it clear that it doesn’t. I will grant you this, Erik. You successfully drew me into your squabble. Duke |
@erik_squires So it sounds like you’d rather have an internet squabble based on exaggerations, accusations, and maybe even "distaste". I don’t blame you. That clip I posted kinda makes you want to steer the conversation away from the relative technical merits of bass trapping vs multiple subs, doesn’t it? In case anyone missed it, just watch for thirty-one seconds, from 37:37 to 38:08 (it’s cued up): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHY7EHY4MA&feature=youtu.be&t=2257 For the record, I agree with Erik that bass traps are beneficial. I don’t think I have ever said otherwise. |
@erik_squires, speaking of straw men and/or reading comprehension, you wrote: " You’ve stated I’ve attempted to discredit the technology." No I did not. I provided TWO quotes wherein you called multi-sub advocates "cultists", and then in a follow-up post I wrote: " Since bass trap advocate Erik Squires is playing the "cultist" card to discredit multi-sub advocates..." So I never said that you attempted to discredit the technology, only its advocates. Of course if its advocates are "cultists", with everything that word implies (brain-washed, simple-minded, etc.), that doesn’t exactly bode well for the technology, does it? Regarding your list of three accusations: It is the easiest thing in the world to make accusations on an internet forum. They cost you nothing and potentially cost the accused a great deal... Unless you are asked to back up your accusations, because then your credibility is being challenged. How about this: You stop the name-calling and drive-by accusations and I’ll leave you alone. Duke |
Erik, If I started referring to those who advocate bass traps as "flat earthers", would I not be discrediting the technology? Same thing when you refer to those who advocate multiple subs as "cultists". Erik, IF you have a beef with Miller Carbon, THEN you have a beef with Miller Carbon. To extrapolate your dispute with him to everyone who advocates multiple subs is unreasonable and unwise, as it fills your world with perceived enemies. And let’s not resort to making fun of each other’s names. You have an unfair advantage; your name is instantly cool without even trying to be. Duke |