How do you think about Qobuz store?


Hello,  

I’ve been considering Qobuz Download Store to purchase music digitally.

As a classical music listener, I find Qobuz’s selection is wide and updated well.

Here are couple points that I perceive as Pros / Cons.

- Pros

1) If I subscribe its Studio Sublime ($21/mon), Qobuz offers discount(usually 50%) on Hi-Res albums.
After discount, purchase makes financial sense compared to buy CDs from Amazon with discounted $.

2) As far as I understand (at this point) I can choose quality / format of download. This appeals to me. I want to download files as Aiff, and so far this is the only store providing this sort of service.

3) DRM Free, seems NO restriction after purchase. I can have files just like personally ripped files from CDs.

4) Also, even just for streaming part, Qobuz is the only service that specifically shows its streaming quality. (For other services, I can choose the quality in the set up, but some people suspect that the service providers change the quality depending on streaming situation.)
This applies to Streaming Offline Download feature. Qobuz provides hi-res offline download. (as a part of streaming service extension)
I wish more streaming services specify their download quality.

Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’m new to this service, and this service changes its policy/price/feature without clear notice.

- Cons

1) Qobuz can chagne its price / plan in the future (It has been changing prices / membership structure couple times already) - Maybe not critical, but still I feel little annoyed.

2) My intension is NOT to debate this part but think I need to mention.
- Myth? Psychological effect? Or Reality? - it’s a common issue for all streaming services, not just Qobuz.

Quite number of people constantly point out that Qobuz’s upsampling quality (most common) 24/96 does not sound good as their CD rip. Even higher resolution does not sound better than their CD rips.

Some even point out that streaming services have couple different mastering versions and use it randomly. (still show the same album cover, so it looks like the same.) Any insider informaiton?

Some people has a hypothesis that this sort of experience comes from clipping of streaming service sides. So once listeners sort things out properly, then both really sound identical.

Most widely available quality such as 24/96 does not show any noticeable difference for normal listening. (At least Qobuz’s discount with sublime membership cancels out this factor.)

Briefly, the point is, Qobuz’s download store sound worse than CD rips. (Or at least not identical)

3) For classical music, the search function is not great, and requires some tricks. This is a common problem for most streaming music services. I’d like to note that Idagio’s search has been most useful.


Is there any Qobuz user? Especially Sublime user shopping at its Download store?

I’d like to know other listener’s experience.


Disclaimer: As I specifically stated above, this is not about Quality difference debate.
If one experience any difference, please respect each other, and don’t simply say “NO they are same”. - Therr might be technical glitches that, in fact, create the difference without the listener's awareness.
Some other factors can affect the result.


Happy new year.
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If you think Qobuz classical search is bad just try your public library.  They have SACDs but never noted.
I don't.
I forgot to answer the question.

A question for anyone that has downloaded a Hi Res album from Qobuz, do you have any issues playing it from a usb thumb drive?  I recently purchased a Marantz SA10 and tried to play it from the usb thumb drive and was unable to play the Qobuz download.  I have no problem playing .wav files from another download source and just curious if anyone else had the same experience.

Thanks,
Dan
@Dan - yes, when I attempt to stream an album downloaded from Qobuz (I always download wav format) through my Oppo 105, the Oppo gets tripped up for some reason. By that I mean: usually after the first song the Oppo somehow gets confused and either starts skipping tracks or just stops playing altogether. My Bryston BDP-2 plays those same tracks just fine, however. Through trial and error, I learned that there is something with the tags that is messing the Oppo up. The fix is easy: just wipe clear any and all tagging from the original downloaded Qobuz files, put your own tags back in, and then use your preferred file converter to convert the files from Wav to Wav, or Wav to Flac, or Wav to whatever you prefer. The Oppo then plays the files flawlessly.

@Op - haven’t noticed any perceived lower SQ from Qobuz hi-res downloads vs. hi-res downloads sold by other vendors. In fact, some hi-res downloads from those other vendors (one popular one in particular I’m thinking of) have been a disappointment SQ-wise, not to mention they charge more $ than Qobuz. 
Thanks, the one file in particular I downloaded prior to buying the Marantz SA10 and had no problem if I remember correctly playing it on my Oppo 103.  It went from my Oppo thru HDMI to my Krell Foundation with no issues.  Once I bought the SA10 that .wav file would just lock up my player.  I have deleted the file from my thumb drive and my computer then downloaded it again to my computer and thumb drive.  Still having the same issue and reached out for help from Qobuz and the only response was to contact Marantz and ask them why it doesn't play.  They closed my ticket like it was resolved :-(  If what you say about sound quality on another site is true I would really hate to limit myself but hate throwing away $20 on a 24/96 download and not being able to play it.