How do I power my 800D(3)s


Hi folks

I am new to this, but trying to learn fast!

I have long been a fan of Bowers and Wilkins and I am lucky enough to buy a brand new pair of 800D(3)'s.  I have recently built a new house, so now have enough space for this very special purchase, which I plan to make in the next month or so.

I want to run a two channel system in our living room so it's a pretty simple layout.  Can anybody give me some advice, so that I get the best out of the speakers.  Will a Pre-Amp, and an Amp be enough with a Streamer?  Do I need two amps?  

Can you also advise on the best brands to look at.  I see that B&W tends to show the speakers off in thier demo's with Classe?  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Matt
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Welcome! Matt-

very nice speakers to compliment your new home.  There are many wise people here offering advice. I concur w/ the panel and working w/ your local dealer/retailer is sound.  Keep us posted on your progress and take your time selecting the gear, including cabling, for the B&W speakers.

PLease give a shout -out w/ dealers and retailers in correspondence on this project.  Happy Listening!

I don’t think anyone here would disagree that one of the criteria for comparing speakers is their ability to create a realistic soundstage. I listen to a lot of live performances ranging from jazz trios to large orchestra and the first thing that catches my attention is the quality of the soundstage instead of quality of the recording, etc. I also admit that I know a number of folks, some with a lot more disposable income than me, that have spent large sums of money on super expensive audio components and had not even noticed or looked for soundstage until I pointed it out to them. They were simply enamored by the exceptional dynamics and detail coming out of speakers. I must think they "felt" the differences among the speakers at the time of purchase but didn’t specifically look for soundstage differences. So bottom line is people spend their money on what makes them happy and may look for different things in the same object. One friend bought a pair of Sonus Fabers - not sure about the model, but paid just under $20K, and he said they looked much nicer than any other speaker he saw - and touched, in that size. To each his own.

Edited: Asked my friend and he has the SF Elipsa model. Forgot to mention the McIntosh MC601/C2500 feeding the beasts. Most beautiful speaker I've personally ever seen close up and the system has an incredible ability to create eerily realistic soundstage, especially on live close miked recordings.

matt_gf
How do I power my B&W 800D(3)s
You will need an amp the can deliver good current down to 2ohms with this sort of impedance and -phase angle in the lower regions. Think big Krell type amps with bi-polar (BJT) output stages, not mosfet or tube.

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Cheers George
It doesn’t matter what you connect to the 800D3, the stage will never become a deep and wide stage. I owned the best B&W loudspeakers and I know people who owned and own them.

We test each single part on properties, these properties you cannot change. It is the DNA of a brand or product.

In 2002 I auditioned a jazz concert. This was the first time that I ever audtioned a concert with a stunning level of stage depth, individual focus of instruments and voices. And also the diversity in height. And I thought; this is how an audio system should sound.

That time I owned the B&W 802N, which I replaced in 2005 by the 800S. I still had only one meter of stage depth. This started to irritate me more and more. I had the hope that the B&W 800D1 would solve this problem.

But when I audtioned them, it was still 1 metre of stage depth. That was the reason why I stopped with B&W after more than 8 years listening to their speakers.

Audio is a also a progress in knowledge and insight. I had the options to test and compare so many stuff in over 18 years of time. It is my living, but I never saw it as work. This is the thing I love most. I can compare and test all the time. In my world only the best counts, 2nd and 3th best does not add anything in my world.

3-dimensional audio has become my trademark. And the response you get from people is of a totally different level than the time I also sold 2 dimensional audio.

It has changed my perspective in audio and music a lot. It made music and audio so much more addictive than I ever had with any 2 dimensional system.

Since 2009 I only sell audio loudspeakers and components which can create a deep and wide stage. I will never go back to sell any kind of 2 dimensonal audio. That would be the time to look for another job.

The people who own a 3 dimensional system use their system so much more than they used a system in the past. This is how big the influences are when you go from 2D to 3D.

Even when you play a song wit only 1 singer and an acoustic guitar. And you compare it between a 2 dimensional system and a 3 dimensional system. The song has a totally different effect on your emotion.

When you play an acoustic song with a 3 dimensional system the singer becomes so much more intimate and tangible. The space around singers and instruments has a big influence on our emotion.

The problem is that most people have no reference frame in how music and instruments sounds in real. That is why we have ideas to use real instruments and voices to show people how small and direct they sound in real. Intimate sound is a part of our Tru-Fi what we use and want voices and instruments to sound like.

George is right that the 800D3 needs power and current to be controled and create a realistic low frequency.
Yawn more trufi speech by Bo.

I tell you Matt (op), you have great speakers, audition amps and buy what you like.