thanks keep it coming guys
My friend does not want to go used. i have no problem with as almost everthing I have is.
He has a tv in a wall unit there is some waf involved as speaker can be 18-24 inchs from wall. sub in corner is ok surround call be ear lvl on stands or wall but can't be up high cause of "waf"
I'll though one other thing he wants to do speakers out side so two zone is needed....we can find a cheap used amp for that i hope but need control on main system or a really cheap rec/int amp w remote
thanks