Herron VTPH-2A or Manley Chinook mk II phonostage


Anyone have a direct comparison with these two phonostage’s  the Herron and Manley. I currently have a Soundsmith MCP2 MK II with a Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC ⭐️
I also am looking to upgrade my tt, and lets say my head has been spinning. 5-8000 range

current system
primaluna hp premium integrated 
focal Sopra 2
rel s/5 sub
luxman sm-150 cd
marantz tt-151S ( the one Clear audio built)
cardas parasec interconnects 

some tt I have been considering
dr Feickert - woodpecker or Blackbird
vpi
Vertere 
EAT Forte S Fatismo

not a lover of the round look

also have a VPI Classic 3 gently used offered to me by a very reliable source for 3 k

any help is welcomed as I have become overwhelmed.
 
Thanks
peter 


tastypeter
The consensus here seems to be that the Herron is the best. 
What “consensus”? How many Herron fans have also heard the Chinook in their home systems? Not many, I’d guess.In my opinion, these are two very fine phono stages, and you would have to audition them both and make your own choice. There is no clear evidence for a separation in their performance. Or you can decide based on the features (gain, number of inputs, tube complement, etc) that one offers versus the other.
I owned a Chinook but ended up selling as I replaced it with the Musical Surrounding Nova 3 which in my system bested it quite handily.
However I think a lot of it was the ability to run 100k loading which opened up everything.

I gather the Herron has wide open loading option so that may actually have the edge but I have not tried one.

All you can Garner are opinions as you will ultimately need to try them in your system as what I get may well react totally different in your system .

Good luck diving deep into this rabbit hole!
Herron, all the way.
Search all the comments, then call Keith Herron. That's what I did and got mine about a year ago. No desire to side by side. Not at all. Its a keeper.


Both highly respected brands.  It will all boil down to preference and budget. 
@lewm Easy now! I was being a little facetious. 
Oh geez, I just noticed the OP's moniker. Seriously?
What's wrong with it?
Probably offends Miller's sensibilities.
Don't forget there is NOT a climate change problem in his world.......
Nope. Not going for it.
Stick with the Herron.
Probably just a Red Herron...
More like a Red Baron...
I run my Zephyr MIMC Star into a SUT and into a Manley Chinook with great results. 
Trouble maker!
Who me sir?
No sir not me sir
Never me sir!
I have had both...preferred Herron ran wide open.  Both are very good phono’s. But it is all about preferences.  I am currently using a SUT into my Audio Tekne preamp with built in phono.  I would pass on the VPI but I am biased to the Garrard 301 and Thorens TD-124 tables.  3k would buy me a Technics SL-1200g but I am also a fan of detachable Headshells as well....if you go with the VPI try and secure one with the 3D arm.  I can speak to VPI as I owned a Prime Signature and kept it a short time as it just wasn’t for me.
Good Luck in your search:)
If you really want to get a one and done phono pre then you might want to try the Whest Audio line, I have had a Whest audio  Three Signature and you cannot really compare the sound quality until you can demo or listen to one of their products.Once you here what they can do for your TT you will not go anywhere else.  Phonostage | Phono Pre-Amp - from Whest Audio
I won't be much help, as I haven't tried both. I had both on my short list when looking for a tube phono pre to join with my RP10/Aphelion, but after a call to Keith I decided on the VTPH2A. I've never experienced such personal customer service, and he really does care about us audio nuts. The special edition Chinook that Upscale offers looks darn nice as well. Another to add to the list would be a used Allnic or Zestos to further the choices.
They are all excellent. 
Haven’t compared but another Herron fan here. Also, if you are thinking turntable check out the new Sempersonus TE-2. Just ordered mine after selling my VPI. If you are at all interested in a modern idler/type drive TT that will take any arm up to 12” and is super well engineered but traditional in appearance the TE-2 may be the ticket. I’ll be running a 12” TW Raven arm and Charisma Signature One cart but you can go with a nice Origin Live Silver (there is one for sale here for $400) and pop you MIMC star on that for a sweet setup that is well within your budget. 
I would definitely recommend the VPI Classic 3. I believe all the Classic 3's come with 3D arm. Great table and $3K for one in good shape is good price.
+1 on the Herron(have not compared to the Manley)