i think that vmps makes the best subs for the $$$ - even new, they're better than anything else for the same $$$. you can get decent used amps to drive them, & either use the vmps' passive x-over or an outboard electronic one. same money as a powered sub, better (quality *&* quantity) bass. my subwoofer system is a bit more extensive - two larger vmps, w/all their upgrades, two original bridged adcom gfa555's, & a marchand deluxe 24db/octave x-over. i bought the x-over, the subs & tara labs cabling new; the entire set-up was still <$2400. this would barely get me one decent powered sub, & i don't care what *anyone* sez - anything smaller/less expensive than, say, velodyne's top model, gives mediocre bass quality, imho.
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