Help with loud pop when AC kicks on - phono amp problem


Hi everyone,

Back with yet another power line issue.  I have a Croft RIAA phono amp power that is causing a very loud pop whenever the AC unit kicks on and again when the fan starts a few seconds later.  In some cases the pop is so loud that it can be heard three rooms away.  It can be heard over even the loudest music peaks.  I'm afraid that it might damage the unit or the speakers, so I'm hesitant to use it.  I'm not sure if new tubes might make a difference.  I hooked a CD player up to the integrated amp (right now I'm using a Jolida hybrid while I'm shopping for a new integrated), and there is no noise when the A/C starts up if only the CD player is hooked up. 

I have tried two different power cords.  Plugged the Croft into the wall, into a PLC Thingee power conditioner, and into a Furman power conditioner.  In all cases it still pops to one degree or another.  

Any thoughts on whether it's worth hunting for the problem.  I had some similar issues with a Heed Quasar phono stage.  But haven't noticed it on a couple of other phono stages.  Seems very hit and miss.

Would welcome any advice.  Thanks!
Scott
smrex13

Showing 2 responses by atmasphere

The problem is caused by the switching that turns the air conditioner system on and off. Assuming its a relay of some sort, its contacts are supposed to be bypassed by a small capacitance to prevent arcing (which creates bursts of RFI) of the contacts as they open and close.

I am sure this capacitor is present in the air conditioning system but it has failed. The relay that operates it will not be far behind as the contacts are now subject to arcing as they operate. It would be a good idea to get this serviced.

Proper grounding of the preamp can assist with making the preamp less susceptible to this sort of noise. If properly grounded, the chassis of the preamp will be grounded by the ground prong of the power cord. The actual circuit ground of the preamp will not be the chassis, but will float at chassis potential and will be the same thing as the shield connection of the RCA inputs. Meanwhile the tone arm ground will connect to the chassis of the preamp. In this way you will have the maximum immunity to noise of this type.

Unfortunately many preamps are improperly grounded, which means that IMMV; resulting in things like isolation transformers and such to fix this problem. But the most elegant way to do it is to have the phono circuit grounded properly to begin with.  
^^ I think you can assume that is the case.

The noise is RFI, and using the power line as an antenna.