Have CD Recorders changed your listening habits?

In the last couple of years I've gone through several consumer grade CD Recorders, and have finally acquired a Marantz Professional CDR500 recorder, (and BTW, I love this machine-- easy to use, well built, and excellent digital copies). I set copy protection to "on".

In my case, making CD-R compilations, and listening to them instead of the commercial CDs is becoming pretty common. Example: Awhile ago I purchased all 8 newly re-mastered (JVC 20Bit K2) Creedence Clearwater Revival CDs, and from them put the 22 best tracks (my opinion) on a SINGLE 80 min. CD-R, and now pretty much just listen to the CD-R. The CD-Rs are cheap, easy to make, and sound excellent. Another good set to compile would be the new Simon and Garfunkle re-masters, IMO-- gotta' buy them first though.

I've also made many compilations by mixing complementary artists songs together, ie Jacinta, Diana Krall, Shirley Horn, and Holly Cole smooth jazz ballads-- this is a Dyno-Supreme CD-R, IMO. How about Alison Krauss and Allison Moorer?

I've found that CD-R burning actually promotes my purchase of MORE commercial CDs by doing this as I'm always looking for complementary music/artists. I'm NOT interested in music piracy though. What do others think of this (maybe controversial) subject? Cheers. Craig
A topic I'm VERY passionate about. Craig, you bought the music so you own the material and are entitled to make copies for personal use. I'm in the same camp; I will NEVER download from the 'net, nor will I ever make copies of music lent to me. I do make my own compilations from CD's I've bought for the same reasons you do, and having bought the music I feel like I've paid for the privilege. Copying CD's you paid for is no different from making analog tapes from your LP's (remember those days?).

I buy a fair bit of new music, how will musicians be able to make new music for our enjoyment if we'd rather steal it than pay for it? There will be a ton of incredible talent toiling away to make ends meet in a "day job" rather than making good use of their gift. I know all about how the record companies, distributors, and retailers get 98% of the revenue, but the musicians still get the 2% and if they're good at what they do this paltry sum adds up to a considerable fortune in no time. I'll step off my soapbox now.... Jeff
I got one for Xmas 20000 and have used it twice. They take too much time (especially off the computer, that sucks), i'd rather have a real copy with an insert, and i don't find copying moral. I also am not a 'best of..' guy, so i have not found a reason to copy.
I forgot...when i get the time i am going to copy my rare cds and just play the copies.
I'm not much of a CD-R guy. I like having the booklet that comes with the album. I don't do much listening of a best of album unless the artist decides to put one out. I'm starting to appreciate albums now for the whole content, not just one particular song. As far as downloading music from the net, no chance, not until they come up with a format that sounds okay. MP3 sucks as far as I'm concerned. I know they are experimenting with other formats, so it will be interesting to see if they take audiophiles into account when the new format shows its face.
Over the years I've had various cassette recorders too, and made many a tape from LPs. But this digital recording stuff is different, eg for some reason it gives me a tremendous sense of power or control that I've never experienced before with recorded music. Maybe it's just because I'm such an old coot that I'm kind of in awe of the technology. I've never tried computer CD burners, and can't imagine doing it-- not being much of a computer geek.

Jeff, glad to hear there is at least one other person that thinks about the use of burners as I do. I believe in paying artists for their work too, and have no interest in downloading music from the i-net. I have exchanged a few CDs with others, but as a result of it, when learning of a new artist that I like, I'll go out and buy one to many of their CDs.

I can appreciate Ohlala's observations too. Being retired, I have the time to fiddle around with recording and making front and back CD covers-- it's a fun part of this hobby. But, like Jeff, once I've paid $17. for a new release, I feel that I have the right to use it as I choose as long as it's for my own personal use. Cheers. Craig
Hey Garfish, another retired old coot calling - have you tried your new toy in making a cd from vinyl, like we did with tape in the old days? If so how did it do?

Also, does the CDR500 allow you to record from your cdp, bypassing its internal dac?

They certainly have. I had put all of my purchased cd's in my computer in the mp3 format to "listen while I work". With Winamp using so little system resources I can do anything except video editing while listening to tunes. I purchased a burner for my computer for business purposes and figured I could make copies and therefore justify getting a cd player (with detatchable faceplate) for my vehicle and risk leaving the copies in the car. Converting the mp3's to audio cd provided a more than adequate listening experience while driving. At home listening is another story. I have come to the conclusion that if I were to archive my extensive vinyl collection in cd format the best results would be had with a stand alone cd recorder. My research reveals that it would be about the same cost as upgrading my sound card, etc. and would be much more convenient. Besides, it would be a major hassle moving my LP 12 back and forth. Performers need to be paid for their efforts but I resent copyright protection that prevents me from making copies for my own personal usage. It has been reported that Celine Deon's comeback cd crashes computers and Mac users report physical damage to their machines. This is, IMHO, an intentional malicious act by the recording labels since the courts have long held that we have a right to copy (for personal use) what we have paid for. Common ground will be difficult to find in these uncharted digital waters. I think I'm talking myself into staying with vinyl.....Patrick
The main reason I purchased a CD burner, Phillips 880, was to archive all of my liver Dead cassette tapes and various other bootlegs. Some of my tapes are over 12 years old and I thought it best to archivthem onto a more lasting and stable medium. The added benefit to this is that I am systematically listening to virtually every tape I own, a wonderful and nostalgic experience. When I bought my Nak D10 I thought it would be the last recording device I would ever buy and I was wrong. The convenience and reliability of CDR's beats cassette tapes hands down.
That should be live Dead, I hate liver!
Hi Doug; I had a TT for about 3 weeks a year ago and I did burn a couple of LPs to CD. I used the tape loop out(s) on my pre-aqmp as a source-- worked well. Of course I still ended up with "pops and ticks" on the CD;>)

As long as your CD player has digital out terminal(s) (preferrably coax, but Toslink would work), you can connect it directly to the CD burner, thus bypassing the CD players DAC. The CDR500 has just about every kind of input/output jacks you can imagine including XLR. If your CD player does not have digital out, you'd have to go through your preamp tape loop out to analog in on the CDR500.

But you really don't have to go through those kind of hassles to record CDs as the CDR500 is a "dubbing"-- two drawer CD recorder where the right drawer plays a CD and the left drawer records it-- very very easy to use.

Also, when the CDR500 "sees" a 44.1KHZ signal, it will bypass the built in Sample Rate Converter (SRC) for a more pure signal. Good Luck, and Cheers. Craig
I'm very tempted by this technology but will wait awhile -maybe they'll bring out a 24/192 or SACD/DVD-A recorder.
"Hey now" Jond!

I bought one a few years back to do the same thing. However, CDR is not a viable archival medium. Therefore, keep your cassettes and DAT tapes. It is just a cheaper an easier medium to trade and store.

BTW, I been taping live shows, Dead and beyond, since 1983. If you are interested in a trade or so e-mail me.
They have for me - I make copies of many of my CDs and load them up into a set of Sony 555ES changers. Not the utmost in audiophile quality, but not horrible and perfect for hitting "Random" - very much like having your own radio station. It doesn't replace critical listening nor the desire to listen to whole CDs, but sometimes I don't want to do either of those things. I have about 700 CDs in the changers and the list is growing.

One of my favorite music purchase is the Rhino compilations (Best of) CDs of music from decades past. Perfect for filling the changer with. I have probably bought 200 CDs a year the past few years (of all types) - that number will go WAY down if more of this copy-guarding continues to proliferate. -Kirk