Have cables become somewhat of a snake-oil topic.


I've invested many tens of thousands in high end 2-channel home audio gear and cables. I'm also a musician who has recorded and created mixes in many of the top recording studios in LA, NY and Nashville. These studios most often use the highest quality power treatment, tube condenser microphones, pre-amps, EQ modules, AD/DA converters, compressors, monitors, etc. Obviously, the goal in a recording studio is to capture the realism of the live studio performance for both vocals and instruments, and create a final mix-down that highlights the natural subtle nuances of the performances of each musician.

With that said, my 20 years of informal research inside these studios says that virtually NONE invest in high priced specially stranded balanced interconnects or speaker cables. Instead, various models of a particular Japanese cable is considered the studio "gold standard" and is WIDELY used in the top studios across the country. Now any good mixing engineer is at least AS interested as any audiophile, in all the audio characteristics and variables we discuss ad nauseum in these A-gon threads. So if recording pros are willing to spend hundreds of thousands on electronics and speakers, to capture the natural and neutral sound of a musician's studio performance, why is it that expensive cabling is seen as the snake oil equivalent in the recording industry. (Moreover, I could go one step further and ask why some home audio D/A converters far exceed the cost of the most sought after professional studio D/A converters?.......we'll leave that for another discussion.)

I DO NOT disagree that substituting a Nordost, Siltech, Cardas or various other high end brands into my personal studio rig do not make a difference. There are indeed audible differences between the brands in terms of bass extension, smoothness, imaging, graininess, etc. However, these DIFFERENCES are not necessarily equivalent to an IMPROVEMENT in capturing the natural/neutral details of a given performance.

(I intentionally will not address the mastering process since that has everything to do with radio and marketing execs commercial sales expectations, rather than a true to life presentation of the musical performances.)
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Yea, I've picked up some Mogami Gold studio XLR wires not too long ago. ~$50 bucks. Try them, you may well not be dissapointed at all. And even if you are: $50.

Had a similar ephiphany. If most of what you listen to was recorded on these wires, how can using something else to reproduce it make it better? I'm sure there may be answers to that quesiton, but it's a awfully good question.
I don't think any of us are suggesting that wires do not sound different -- or that anyone is anything but welcome to, and in fact encouraged, to have and express perfectly legitimate preferences. At any price point, or across them all. Absolutely.

Question is, if virtually all microphones used to record whatever it is that we are listening to are wired with the Mogami Gold Studio Mic XLR cables -- before anything is mixed or mastered or anything else, the purest, rawest most primary source recording that will ever exist of a given event, delivered by this wire -- then what exactly is some other wire plugged into the playback chain changing, or adding, or whatever? I don't profess to have an answer, but worth being precise about the quesiton.
Brown, think you have captured the essence of this mainia perfectly. You
change to X on a leap of faith, not knowing in advance whether or how it
should make any difference. At all. And at the end of the experiment, you
think to switch back. And at that point, you either find yourself thinking (a)
meh, whatever; or (b) holy shit, I've just unwittingly removed something I'm
no longer willing and/or interested in living without, any capacity to quantify
or explain it be damned. I've found myself in both positions, and am in no
better a position either to explain or predict for the experience. I resort to
Justice Potter Stuart and the "you know it when you see it"
definition of pornography -- principally because I have nothing better to
offer. You never really can know what will make you go all smiley when it
comes to this shit. But I think you owe it to yourself to experiment and find
out. And, in the process, retain the courage of your convictions to tell the
rest of us jackasses to get f-ed when you find it. 'Cause, at the end of the
day, you're the one you're answerable to when it comes to getting all
smiley.... It either makes you happy or it doesn't. Full stop.