Has anyone heard the new PS Audio Strata, Integrated Amp/DAC/streamer?


PS audio, is introducing an integrated amp with a DAC that looks interesting.
It can also stream from most popular services.
It is said to output 200 wpc at 4 ohms.
Does anyone have any experience with it yet?
I've had separates for years now, but this looking pretty impressive, if it has the headroom for my Maggie 1.6's.
mwinkc
Looks like it isn’t avail to the public yet. Site says still in beta testing.
I got an email from them 2 days ago that they are looking for beta testers so I expect it won't be out for maybe a few more months. If you're interested in it, you might also check out the NAD M10 and Arcam SA-30 which are in the same price range as the PS Audio. Both of those also have room correction built in, if that floats your boat.
I've been in contact with PS audio and found out that the Beta program is still being designed, so they have no details on the t's & c's of the program so far.
I don't know how well room correction works in the real world and haven't seen much positive press on it so it's not something I'm currently seeking out, but I'll look into the NAD and the Arcam.
Thanks for your suggestion.
Listen to an Ayre EX-8, before buying. 
The NAD has USB-A input to play local files via a portable HD. The Arcam might have it too but I'm not familiar. PS Audio has never supported this and I don't think they ever will. They've spent years working on a multi $K server for your local needs.
It's a huge swiss army knife. Good price point. But with a streamer, DAC, bluetooth, etc. inside, I would be a little concerned that it might be outdated too quickly. Maybe they figured that piece out. It's one thing to buy that cute little Sprout for 700 buck, but this is going to be $3000.
Both are interesting for different purposes. Paul speaks a little about the Strata in this youtube.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXcPNegMIJ0

For Strata I will be looking forward to understand if it will be Roon Ready at some point and to what extend the DAC is upgradeable. I notice the wording "implified FPGA known as a CPLD". I agree with @hilde45 that a concern for such an army knife is to keep it updated. 
Looks like available in UK. See Premium Sound UK. In stock. 
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It won’t even begin beta testing for a month or two. You can find a thread on this at the PSA site. 
These PSA projects always slip. Now they will beta test the m1200 amps before strata. I suspect because of the software difficulties with producing their own streaming app. 
Maybe I’ll be wrong, but I’d be surprised if Strata is available before Independence Day at earliest. 
Paul just posted a new video about the strata:
https://youtu.be/V_uSUal3Lsc
I'm on the list for a possible beta trial.
The beta program is said to be materializing towards the end of this month.
Hilde45, you have a good point.
The newer separate DACs & preamps are software upgradeable. Whether or not they can pull that off for different parts of an integrated, at a affordable price is not known, yet.
In my field, digital production printing, we can put firmware on a USB drive, and using the control panel on the press, initiate the installation of upgrades on the print engine and all of its optional accessories. But that's a $300,000 system, not a $3,000 system.
Thanks, @mwinkc . And I really have positive feelings about PSA — mostly from watching videos and reading reviews. My sense is that they realized that there's this price point that they're not fielding a full enough set of products; they realized that they were on to something with the Sprout in filling the all-in-one niche, but needed to do it at a more mid-fi or audiophile-attracting price and quality point.

From my perspective, just getting into the hobby, I realized that once one goes above about $2.5k, there are some very good reasons to separate the streamer from everything else, or, perhaps the streamer and DAC from the power sources. This is due to upgrade-ability.

But perhaps they have a good point — which is that this will be a really good piece of gear that will hit the swath of the market that would likely never buy, say, a deHavilland preamp or a Pass amp (etc.) and that folks will be happy with it — and will feel safe to try it with their 30 day money back and their trade-up/trade-in program.

And what about the audiophiles, then? Well, for those who *really* want/need to keep the price point at $3k or under, well, where are you going to find 200 wpc of good quality with all that other stuff? You'd likely be hard pressed. (Though I do wonder who really needs 200 wpc and also what Parasound might be doing with the HINT line.)

P.S. As just one example of what the Strata might encounter, here's the Naim Uniti Atom, on sale, 1 year old. Similar type of unit as Strata, similar price, 8/10 condition, and already 30% off.
https://tmraudio.com/components/integrated-amplifiers/naim-uniti-atom-stereo-integrated-amplifier-da...
Just to be clear, Paul clarified on PSA site that strata is only 100 wpc into 8 ohms. 
The 200 wpc is into 4 ohms. 
Kren0006, yes..It’s 200wpc @ 4ohms.
I asked Scott at PS Audio several questions in my first email on the subject, first one being whether or not the Strata, a Class D amp, has enough power & overhead to drive my Maggie 1.6’s.
I did not get answers to most of my questions but the email resulted in being referred to someone else and being put in the beta program.(Should be taking shape at the end of the month).
In Paul’s recent video, announcing the Strata, he did mention that the Strata will pair nicely with Magneplaners.
Ordinarily I would not be looking at class D, but I’ve read that PS Audio and some other higher end Class d amps can drive less efficient speakers like Maggie’s, well.
As always the proof will be in the listening!
Yeah I think there will be a big market for these one box solutions that some call super integrateds (traditional integrated amp plus streaming).

There will be a lot of competition and I think soon enough almost all the players will have a competing offering. 

NAD and Naim were two of earliest adapters but PSA not far behind IF strata gets released anytime soon. That is no guarantee if you follow the follies relating to speaker and server design there but I wish them well. They certainly are transparent with their customers which is to be commended. 

Will be interesting to see how PSA unit compares to the other options.
Just a couple of points, the price in the UK shows 3000 British pounds which would mean a price of $3,500.00+ in the US

As per power if they are saying 200 watts into a 4 ohm load that means 100 watts into an 8 ohm load.

If you are going to spend $3k + on an integrated amplifier this would not be an integrated amplifier that would be on our short list.

The most exciting integrated amplifier in a similar price point although a bit higher is the new NAD M33  which most people in the industry feel is  going to be the definitive product to look at at its price point and as a step up in the next price class above. 

https://audioxpress.com/news/nad-unveils-masters-m33-bluos-streaming-dac-amplifier-featuring-purifi-s-ultra-quiet-amplification-technology

the NAD M33 is the first amplifier to use Purefi, which is the latest amplifier technology from Bruno Putzzis, the inventor of Hypex, then Ncore and now Purefi.

https://audioxpress.com/news/nad-electronics-and-purifi-audio-announce-cooperation-agreement

The new M33 offers an even better feature set

1: Twice the power 200 watts 8 ohms 
2: The Purefi amplifier technology which is reported to sound far better than any previous technology from Bruno.
3: Full MQA
4: Dirac Room Correction
5: Full Roon compatibility
6: Part of the Blue Sound OS 
7: Up-gradable Nad MDC design to allow for future hardware changes
8: Built in phono and headphone stage

We have one on order the preliminary reports are the M33 is just one fantastic sounding product.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ NAD M33 dealers


@audiotroy,Umm, it’s a US product so attempting to derive or guess at US price from UK price, a$$backwards, especially when PSA has already said US price $3k : )

As they say on ESPN, Come on, man!


I’d think the Hegel’s would give everything mentioned above a very strong run for the money. Wasn’t crazy about NAD M10 sound. Sounded veiled to me
Kren the NAD M10 is using a hypex based amplifier the sound quality of that product shows its hypex roots.

The M10 is a nice sounding product we dramatically prefer the warmer punchier Naim sound.

The new M33 is a different league we heard one during its New York City press preview.

The PS audio piece is rumored to be in the $3k range.

As per the Hegel being better we have the Hegel H120 and the H390 which are superb, with the Nad M33 which we have on order we will most likely have the largest selection of high quality integrated amplifiers in the country, we have NAD, Unison Research, Hegel, Micromega, Musical Fidelity, Anthem, Naim and a few others. 

Viva selection, 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ


Yeah I think I’d prefer the Hegel amplification stage to the others (just a guess) but I wonder about the Hegel streaming interface???


That said, the PSA fans are diehard and I would love to hear some of their products. Unfortunately direct only now, no dealers in US any longer. Fun to follow some of their threads over there tho
If we are going to diverge on this thread about Purefi. I will add that Computer Audiophile has a great interview with the Purefi team. The thing that caught my eye was Bruno's quote that the goal of the company was too  to remove a zero from the price of an amp. If his amp were to compete against a $10K amp he wants to build it for $1K (just arbitrary numbers used by me).

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/bits-and-bytes/purifi-audio-and-the-audiophile-style-readers-qa-with-lars-risbo-bruno-putzeys-r815/ 

I looked a the NAD M33 Purefi amp via the specs and was a disappointed it does so many things in 1 box. Not really the dragon slayer amp that Bruno was talking about in the interview. Though this is the first amp to have the new Purefi tech so I am still waiting on a Purifi amp only, something like the Mola Mola Kaluga amp.

audiotroy
Thanks for your suggestions.
The NAD 33 looked interesting, but it is quite a bit more expensive than I'm able to go at this time.
" The M33, a BluOS™ enabled DAC/amplifier that can serve as the heart of a reference whole-home system. In its simplest form, the M33 (US$4999/€4999/£3999 MSRP) is an ultra-high-performance streaming amplifier with superb audiophile sound "
On NAD's website it's output is listed as "Continuous Power: 200W into 8/4 Ohms", so no more power on tap for the additional $2000.
The Hegel looks fantastic... but then from what I hear, Hegels are very nice. However it's another $5000 integrated.
To stop the guessing over the Strata's price...PS Audio has the price listed on their website. It's $2999. Of course, unlike the NAD, it is lacking a PhonoStage, so I'd need to come up with that additionally.
One does wonder where they had to skimp to do that and whether or not the DAC or Streamer modules can be updated via software/firmware.
I went from receivers to separates a few years ago.. so it feels a little odd going back, but I'm not going to be upgrading my Emotiva preamp/dac and power amp with other separates costing 3-5 thousand each.
I got a mid/low end Marantz CD6006 last month. It has a DAC that blows away the DAC in my Emotive PT-100. I stream from my laptop through the Marantz now. It just started me thinking about what level of components must be in the Emotiva to create a Preamp, MM/MC PhonoStage, tuner and DAC for $325.
Anyways, it will be very interesting to test one.

MTDining, The  Ayre EX8 looks nice. Not sure what the output is for 4ohm speakers. They list " 100Wpc into 8 ohms (20dBW)". (Again thinking of my Maggie 1.6's.   Didn't see much in the way of streaming support, other than Spotify and Roon. Lastly, it's $6000.

Thanks all
If these new products can close the gap between audiophile vs  life style products i’m all for it.  Can’t think of a better pathway for the younger generation to get involved in HiFi.
PSA site has clarified that Strata will have a chip-based dac (unlike Directstream Sr, for example). The dac in Strata will presumably be upgraded over the one in Gain Cell Dac/Preamp.  The chip is ES9016 or 9018, I forget which (16 I think), for whatever that is worth.

Yeah, I agree with chrshanl37 on these products filling a nice gap and being good for the industry. Too many too content with poor quality and if this can be a gateway that’s good.
Chrshani these products are perfect for the new buyer just entering the market, the fact that the NAD piece is part of a broad high performance echo system which allows for sound via the same interface to be played throughout a house is a wonderful thing.

We are very big on the Nad and Naim products because they are both good to great sounding lines and they easily morph into echo systems that can allow for sound in the users Kitchen, or Family room, via a streaming soundbar, NAD, or via a NAD surround sound receiver etc.
The NAD is a 200 watts into both 8 ohm or 4 ohm loads the PS is 200 watts into a 4 ohm load but is only 100 watts into an 8 ohm load so unless your loudspeaker is 4 ohm the NAD may be a bit louder.
The take away is that this is an exciting time for audiophiles on a budget with outstanding sounding integrated amplifiers from Nam, Nad, and many others.

Dave and TroyAudio Doctor NJ Nad, Naim, Hegel dealers
So Strata now appearing on PSA web site product page, listed at $2999 USD.

Not available for sale yet, product page says still in beta testing , but the PSA forums actually clarified (Paul himself, within last 10 days) won't start for Strata until near end of April (despite product page saying now in beta testing)

Perhaps this had been showing for awhile, but I just noticed it on the  PSA product page.  I think it'll be an interesting product.