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Regarding two aftermarket power cables: "These differences in the shapes of the musical waveforms are far too small to see or measure with even the most sophisticated technology, yet we as listeners not only routinely discriminate such differences, we sometimes find musical meaning in these differences."

 Nonsense. Just because people claim to "routinely discriminate" differences doesn't mean it's true or they're right. Apparently many have witnessed UFOs but that doesn't mean they actually saw extraterrestrial visitors, does it? Some have seen/heard a deity speaking to them "routinely"; does that imply that they are surely communing with an unseen/unmeasurable spiritual force(s)? Can we not put a little more effort into confirmatory reality-testing first when "the most sophisticated technology" can find nothing in 2020? (Of course, speaker cables can measure differently as per here, here, even if not necessarily audible in many cases by the time we connect amp to speaker.)

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douglas_schroeder
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audio2design, I will clarify my question; have you ever compared entire sets of cables in a single listening session, swapping them with intent to see what the differences are? 

It seems to me from your answer that you have not, but have conducted blind comparisons of particular cables. Is that correct? 

I am uninterested in the pedigree of systems you have heard, and of the potential manufacturing problems of some cable makers, as I believe these are tangential, and not pertinent to my point.   :)
glupson
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"I am uninterested in the pedigree of systems you have heard, and of the potential manufacturing problems of some cable makers, as I believe these are tangential, and not pertinent to my point. :)"

It would mean that buying a $100 receiver and $100 set of speakers and connecting them with the world’s best speaker cables would make it all sound fantastic. The pedigree of systems cables are tested on is not tangential, it may be more relevant than those cables themselves. As many who have tried different cables would tell you.

Not having interest in relevant variables during any kind of testing renders the results irrelevant.
douglas_schroeder
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Of course, glupson, you will default to the most extreme, invalid comparisons, completely ignoring the context. What else would be expected of you? Pathetic. 
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twoleftears
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The argument for a "full loom" is that they "work together" or "work together better" than unmatched cables.  Given that digital cables, ICs, SCs, and PCs are all performing different tasks, and the components they are hooked up to may come from different companies, with different impedances, and also performing different functions, please explain with detailed, specific arguments from electronic engineering why a full loom is ipso facto better.
audio2design
867 posts

Every cable vendor blathers on and on about how their cables improve signal conduction. If that is true, then they don't need to work together as a loom. It is almost like they are not being completely truthful.
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