Do you now have 40.1s Granny? I have never heard them but I have been very impressed with the 30.1 and Super HFl5+ at the Capital AudioFest. I still love my Spendor SP100s which are similar to the 40.1.
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Nice! Congrats Grannyring!
I'd like to have your dilemma! I have M30.1s, so not quite the same thing, just the top 1/4 for half the price : ) Not sure my siting will translate to the big brothers, but I used the Cardas method to get in the ballpark and tweaked to taste from there. That worked well overall, so something to try maybe with the big 40.1s. You have a lot more room than I do. My 30.1s are in a 12x17 space.
I'll bet they'll work great nearfield. I sit about 8 feet away from my 30.1s and they are about 6.5 feet apart with some toe-in, about 15 degrees or so. They are really not that fussy and they aren't heavy, so it's easy to play around with different locations.
Let us know how you get on with them! I'm excited for you!
My room is similar to yours... 18' x 26' with ceiling ht. varying from 7 to 8 feet, with carpet over concrete pour (basement). Mine are approx 7 feet apart, pulled out approx. 4 feet from the front wall, toed in approx. 15 degrees and I sit approx. 9 feet away. I love 40.1's so much I'm on my second pair. Hope you enjoy them!
Pdreher, oh my why don't folks talk about these speakers more! What a revelation! So rich and full bodied with all the details of the finest speaker, but not thrust at you!
I love them. 8 feet from the wall behind them, 7.5 feet apart center to center, and I sit 9 feet back from the front plane of the speakers.
Slight toe in. They remind me of my Soundlab M1 speakers. No kidding. They fill the room with rich, full bodied music. Effortless and with a ton depth.
My system consists of of a DIY tube preamp with beefy power supply, the amps mentioned above, Luxman DA06 dac and PS Audio memory player transport. All my wire is Western Electric NOS from the 70s. Thick gauge for the power cords and speaker wire .. 10 ga.
This is system has zero fatigue and has me forgetting completely about how this or that part of the system sounds. The music, in totality, just sounds right. Very nice end result. The speakers are the main reason. They are not the most resolving. They are not the most extended in the top end. Other speakers image better...and do other aphile tricks better. However no speaker I have heard plays music with more simply enjoyment.
The he one exception may be the Soundlab M1 speakers I owned. The two sound very much alike really. The SLs are huge however and need tons of power.
Well I have had these speakers two weeks and they are just fabulous. They did take me awhile to set up for optimum performance. I found slight position changes impacted the sound.
The bass was the biggest challenge. They can sound bass heavy and thick without that last bit of dialing in. I am enjoying classical music like never before. In general the speakers are just plain easy to enjoy music with. Easy to get lost into the music. No tipped up highs or upper mids. No thinness. Just a full bodied, natural sounding speaker.
Sure my previous speakers were more impressive in dynamics and ultimate resolution, but the 40.1 just sound beautiful and right. Less impressive, but right.
If if any of you have tinnitus, then this speaker is a must have!
I agree with your description of the M-40.1's being full bodied and natural sounding. They just sound right to me.
I compare my 40.1's to my previously owned Dynaudio C4's as follows:
Dyn C4's are like a sports care: fast, exciting and electrifying... but after a while, you tire of listening too them and you just want to relax and enjoy the ride.
The big Harbeth's on the other hand are like a fine luxury car: smooth, powerful and great for long rides.... never tiring, always enjoyable and good for the soul.
Hi Bob. I hooked the 40.1s to a Goldmund Job 225 SS amp today and have been listening for several hours. I must say it seems these speakers like more power and SS amps. I like the sound better and I did not think it could get any better.
These speakers like a fast amp with great bass control and at least 100-150 watts to really open up. At least that has been my experience thus far with 25 watt SET amps, 50 watt triode PP tube amps, and finally the Job 225. The Job is the best of the group on this speaker.
all three were good, but I really enjoy the Job 225 more.
Since selling my VAC 70/70 Signature, I've been using and old Bryston 4BST with surprisingly good results. Most of the amps I've used with the 40.1's have sounded great in their own way, with only two exceptions:
Amps I have liked with M-40.1's:
It's not exactly apples to apples, but happy to share my experiences with Harbeth Compact-7es3s.
The great room in my 3rd-floor condo is an imperfect rectangle 22X14X9, with a 4-wideX6-deep "cutout" in the far left corner (carpet over concrete floor, with a wood/plaster ceiling). Something that eventually factored in was that local building codes required concrete & steel for the first 2 floors, but allowed wood & plaster from floors 3 and up.
I put the speakers 8 feet apart, 6 inches from far wall, and on 19" sound anchor stands. The compact-7s became temperamental at "higher elevations." Using taller stands substantially increased the level of bass-bounce/reverb in the room. In addition, I initially tried 22 degree toe-in, but found for the room that 0 toe-in gave the best sound.
Overall, the speakers were very easy to drive and not fussy about cable. Worked great with Linn separates, and later an Ayre integrated. In the end, I swapped them out for the smaller P3-ESRs. Unfortunately, the Compact-7s were borderline too big for the room, given that I'm in a condo with both floor and ceiling neighbors. I never received any complaints, but found it judicious to go with the smaller speakers, which I have on 22" Linn stands. Not quite as resolving as the Compact-7's, but the upstairs neighbor did mention at an HOA meeting that she appreciated that her floor "wasn't vibrating anymore on the weekends."