Hafler/NAD combo


Hope this question is not too vague,but would a Hafler 220 with a vintage NAD 3020 as my preamp be a better alternative compared to the NAD integrated only.
john421
The Hafler should give you more power. As far as the sound of the NAD pre-amp, I don't know. Give it a try both ways and see what you like.
Yes,the Hafler has more power,the NAD has sufficient power to some degree.Like the sound of the NAD as an integrated,but was curious if anyone has heard this combination.Trying to piece together a decent budget system and always looking for opinions.Have read where the NAD is better when only the preamp section is used.
The combo should work quite nicely, providing the electrolytic
capacitors in both units have not dried out, failed, or have
been replaced. They're both(potentially) over three decades
old. Dried out caps will(sometimes) still allow a circuit to
function, but results in greatly diminished sound quality,
especially noticeable in the system's dynamics, bass response
and phono section. That's all the electrolytics(NOT just the
power supply's filter caps). Both have a number of them,
throughout their circuits.
Just had the NAD serviced,Hafler seems to be fine.Paid $5 for the NAD,$15 for the Hafler so I feel some reasonable upgrades are worth it.
They will work fine with dried out caps, but the sound quality suffers greatly. Simply depends on how good you want it to sound and your budget.
While there is some debate on how long it takes for the caps to dry out, yours are way past that point.
Will see what conclusion the technician comes to,but thanks for the opinions/concerns.
If you already have the 2 pieces, why would you ask for opinions on how they sound? First hand experience is better than 3rd party opinions.
Guess the same reason everyone else does.That's what I thought this forum was for,to ask opinions on how to possibly gain better knowledge of ways to improve music enjoyment.I like how it sounds yes,just curious to know other thoughts on these components.The NAD has enough power to drive most speakers so was wondering if some thought the Hafler was not needed.Then again I've read that the NAD preamp section works much better using only it's preamp section.Sorry if the question is irrelevant to some!
"The NAD has enough power to drive most speakers so was wondering if some thought the Hafler was not needed.Then again I've read that the NAD preamp section works much better using only it's preamp section.Sorry if the question is irrelevant to some!"

I guess you're right. Why try components you already own in your own system? Its always better to get advice from complete strangers and vintage magazine articles.

What if someone else asked the same exact question? Would you reply stating that you have the same components and was hoping that someone else could tell you how they sound too? Your question is not irrelevant, its absurd.
Zd542,please allow more mature and understanding people to answer.HAVE,tried them.Just getting suggestions on stereo equipment not a good brain surgeon!
"Zd542,please allow more mature and understanding people to answer."

Sorry about that. I just unlocked this thread so other people can now post.

Since you're the only one here who has listened to the combo, what's your take on how well the 2 work together?
I bought the NAD 3020 new in 1978 and used it as the core of my audio system for many years. At one point I added an external power amp and was very pleased with the performance of the preamp section when used in that senerio. I used it as a pre amp only for a few years until a power supply issue lead to its well deserved retirement. If your speakers are at all in the mid efficiency range they may appreciate the addition power the Hafler offers and the pre section of the NAD will continue to serve you well. These statements are contingent on the electronics all functioning well as previously suggested. The power amp side of the 3020 worked well with it's soft clipping and ability to punch a little above its weight, but it may not be allowing your speakers to perform at their full potential.
The Hafler working properly has the better sound.
Thats very helpful information,very appreciated.