I agree completely. She should have asked before touching anything.
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You now have the perfect excuse to invite her back for a speaker-position-tweaking session! And her ears may be better at it than yours, because she is probably completely free of our preconceived notions!
Audiophile etiquette can be picked up but audiophile enthusiasm for "dialing it in" cannot. If she innately cares that much about sound quality, dude, give it every possible chance to work out between you.
Well, this is a reminder of what a blessing it is to have a well broken in audiophile wife. Since this is a first time guest, I assume you don't know her well. I'd watch carefully. This could be an early indicator of egocentricity, or it could be an early indication of a golden eared gem in training.
I've made the same mistake myself. Got the speakers very well positioned, and didn't have sense to leave well enough alone or use a bit of scotch tape to mark the position. Won't make that mistake again.
Thats a bit strange honestly. I’d take that as a red flag. To her credit, she at least understands the importance of speaker placement. To her discredit, her enjoyment, and placement, of your stuff is more important to her than your enjoyment, or placement, of your stuff.
I spent hours dialing in my friends LS50’s (he wanted me to) and came back a week later only to see his cleaning lady moved them in order to vacuum; I wonder if its the same woman....
And on another side note, I was at my local stereo shop listening to some personas and the other customer asked if he could change the toe in of one speaker. The look on the sales guys face was priceless. I’m sure he wanted to say “are you nuts, Paradigms rep spent hours setting these up” but instead, he politely said “sure”.
On a more serious note, this one guy at work thought all my talk about the tiny things I can hear was BS. So when I host a little work party he decides to play this little prank. Only it made no sense but then people like him seldom do. Because what he did was move it when no one was looking. Only it made no sense because I was playing music for everyone else, so he only was ruining it for everyone else. But I guess since he was dumb enough to believe it makes no difference then he wouldn't know that either.
Anyway, his bad luck. Because as it happened the next one was a little older and the record she wanted to hear I thought should be played at a different level so while everyone had wandered out of the room I decided to put it on just to level check.
Immediately noticed the balance was off. The Aronov integrated I was using back then had individual volume controls which was a hassle and sometimes I would screw up. So quick double-check, no that's not it. Sat down again, listened, knew what it was, pulled out the tape measure (fastest way by far) made the adjustment, sat down to double-check. Okay fine.
This whole process took like a minute. Two at the most. If you count from the time the record went on. Yes I am that good.
Only as I was leaving the room did I notice Ron standing in the doorway, and the story was written on his face. All the frustration, astonishment, guilt, and disbelief.
Just one of many stories illustrating how much better people hear than people think they can hear. I have others. Lots of em.
She was being obnoxious.
I can’t imagine taking it upon myself to just move around someone else’s furniture or speakers in their own house, without asking (and having a darned good reason!).
The closest I get to that is the fact that my 2 channel listening room doubles as a living room/home theater room, so there are often guests over.
I’m amazed how many guests have no respect for, or idea of, valuable speakers. Usually. my speakers are fairly striking and of obvious high quality finish (I like good aesthetics) and yet guests constantly lean on the speakers, place their hands on them while talking, and even sometimes put their drinks on the speakers! These people are still stuck in their animal-house-dorm idea of what stereo equipment is - speakers are as much ash tray holders as music producers.
I don’t care WHAT piece of furniture or equipment I was aware of in someone else’s home. Especially if it looked expensive I’d be CAREFUL around it.
People here are getting really worked up about this. The OP stated that he appreciated her interest but could have told her not to do that. Awkward as that would be, it would have ended right there and then.
I've been in the same situation and it is awkward. I once had to tell a handyman not to stand on my speaker cable. He moved. Conflict over and done with.
I wonder how many here who would have harmed her would do the same if it were a man, or would they simply speak up and explain things.
I guess we can add misogynist to our growing list of biases. Some take the term, boys club, a bit too literally.
All the best,
Not woman related but I had some uncouth tradesman in the basement man cave. I checked in on him to find him unscrewing a sheet of sheetrock from the ceiling and putting the dusty screws on the pool table. I politely asked him not to do that, no way, never, thanks man. I had to do stuff upstairs and popped back down 20 mins later to find dozens more screws and plaster dust on the walnut plinth of my Garrard 401.
Another opportunity for a plethora of rampant sexism...man...I assume "pops" meant he'd knock her out with a Cosby drug as clearly he displays the insecurity of a true coward. Speak to any of the strong women in my life with the weird disdain and sexism shown here and I promise it will end badly for you. Wake up.
Last Winter, the day before we were going to leave for New Orleans, my baseboard heating in living room sprung a leak. When the oil company came to repair it, I told the 2 Techs to be very careful around my speakers, not to touch them or move them. (they were not in the way). After the techs left, I noticed my right speaker had been dragged away from its resting place and the inserts for the threaded spikes were broken and 2 of the spikes had sheared off.
I complained to the oil company and the techs denied it. I had to buy a new plinth and spikes for the speakers from GE at my expense. Not only that but the flawless piano black lacquered speaker had multiple scratches, fingerprints and smelled like oil. The owner of the oil company would no do anything. He said I should have moved them before the techs got there.
I changed oil company’s after that and when I received the bill for the heating repair, I sent it back with the invoice for the new parts for my speaker which was more than the cost of the heating repair. I Never paid them.
Nonoise how do you know I am a male?
Most people on these sites prefer anonymity. I have been a Agon member for 20 years and have kept it that way. Sometimes joking on this site inevitably rubs someone wrong or is misunderstood.
In this case WG took it wrong and as bad taste. I certainly didn’t mean it that way. The first think that came to my mind was the Lenny Kravitz song along what I assumed to be a not so serious post. Sorry if I offended anyone.
It's all good, pops. Nothing I said was meant to offend but to reflect on what is said as this thread seemed to be taking a turn for the worse, which is getting commonplace, good intentions aside.
I was just looking at other threads past performance as an indicator. I guess that makes me the party pooper.
All the best,
Aren't the Tad CR1s over 100 lbs, with the stands adding more weight ? Not easy to move, and certainly, she was out of line. Balancing super tweeters on top of them would also be tricky, as the tops are not a flat surface. The closest I ever got to an experience such as this, was a gf once turned off the power to some of my gear, without her realizing I left the gear on, 24 / 7. This was my fault, as I should have explained this to her. Anyway, although it would be exciting to meet a woman who is an audiophile / music lover, it is my opinion, an act like this, shows total disrespect, with signs of arrogance an narcissism.