Melbguy1, thank you, I think I got an idea. It appears that though I am sure I would like them both, I would probably slightly prefer Gryphon sound. But it's a guess of mine. Would be interested in either integrated or older Gryphon separates including phono stage when I am ready to upgrade. I bet, either would give me a great sound. Since I prefer warmer sounding speakers, Vitus might give me too much of a good thing, but..not necessarily. Anyway, as I understand, both Gryphon and Vitus are top level in solid state amplification.
