Thanks guys,
Your posts are always lluminatining, sheds an interesting light and perspective for sure. I think I'll give the WE10ga some listening time. I have purchased a number of feet of various Gage. Best, Rob |
Brownsfan,
That is good news. It must be the Oppo is my guess too. In my office system with Sony DVP S9000ES SACD/DVD/ as Transport, Eastern Electric Mini Max DAC the soundstage is extremely 3-D, wide and deep. For example, on Neil Young, Greatest Hits, "Down by te River" finds the Rhythm guitar projected literally five (5) feet in front of the left speaker along the wall to my Left. Neil is slightly behind the the speakers in the center of speakers, the drummer is at least 5-6 feet back, the bass to the
Right between Young and the drummer a couple feet back. The spread is
Fourteen (14) wide, the width of the listening room. On other cuts you would think the piano is in the room, big like on a Maggie, but to me even better. I used the Sheffield test cd with Doug Sax to test the system. It was A plus in all parameters. Best, Rob. |
Grannyring, Jetrexpro, Brownsfan, all
I purchased more Western Electric WE10ga, WE14ga, going to build WE10ga power cords first, for wall to power strip using Furutech connection as in Jeff Day Blog. Then, likely WE14ga for transport and DAC. Should be finished by end of week. Best, Rob |
Geez Grannyring,
Wish I had your skill. Let us know how that project turns out. I finished making the WE10ga power cord; goes from wall to power strip. So far it is sounding very good. Needs more burn in. It is replacing a Silnote pc which is excellent, if it beats the Silnote. Silnote is really terrific stuff. Best in my system, except for the WE. My wife still likes the Silnote expensive interconnect ever so slightly better than the Belden 8402. Not me. I am now going to build the two WE14ga for the DAC and transport. Then, another WE10ga for the Coincident Dynamo power amp. Right now the Dynamo has a Custom Power Cable Company (CPCC), that I think is really good. Too bad that company went out of business, but the cable is super stiff and I think it created problems for many folks. Best, Rob |
John421,
Simple answer is different systems, rooms, ears. They are great in my system, hands down among the best I have ever heard. I do believe they like SET, tubes in general. I cannot praise them enough. In my rigs they replaced extremely expensive silver. At any rate different ears that I respect with different rooms and systems love them better than almost anything else they ever heard or owned and we are talking high priced cables; and even then it is usually a split decision. Best, Rob
P.S. How can you go wrong comparing them against anything you own? Only about $50.00, 1 meter terminated RCA. |
Enjoy the ride. Best, Rob |
Great to hear Bob,
My WE16ga speaker cables are the best I have ever owned. I sold all my speaker cables that cost from high hundreds to multiple thousand without regrets. I also made a power cord out of WE10ga and it sounds outstanding. Happy Thanksgiving all...Best, Rob |
Grannyring,
I was just following your lead and as usual it turned out to be a stellar move. Have you read some of Jeff Day's latest blog posts? Some good info on his USB wire experiment. Plus he bought Maestro Leopold Stowkowski's Altec Voice Of The Theatre (VOTT). Wow! Great reads if you haven't done so already. Jeff Day has them wired to Yazaki-san SPEC Real Sound amps. Jim Smith of "Get Better Sound Fame" is also writing high praise about the Western Electric 16 gauge speaker wire and Belden 8402 interconnect; he too has replaced multi-thousand speaker and interconnect with the WE and Belden. I am kicking myself still, for not purchasing your Yamamoto DAC. It does not appear to come up for sale on the "used" market. I suppose l'll break down soon and buy one new. Best, Rob |
Jazzonthehudson,
The Furutech F11and F28 work extremely well. I'd g with the WE 10 gauge for pc on power amp. WE 14 gauge for pre/cd/DAC, although I prefer the Beldem 8402 as interconnect. Best, Rob |
Jazzonthehudson,
I used the Furutech, very happy. Made same as Jeff Day Blog. Best, Rob |
Grannyring, Jetrexpro,
You guys need to start a blog as well...your experience and experiments are invaluable to folks like me, funny, been at it for a long time, but never a DIY until recently. I'm warming to it with my brother's help and Yazaki-san mentoring; and of course, your stellar suggestions. Best, Rob |
Hi Grannyring,
thanks for the update. I'm going to do same, see how it does in my system. I really like the WE10ga as power cord. Also thanks for the Canare suggestion. Early on Yazaki-san also recommend the Canare. Recently my brother got to compare the WE16ga against his favorite speaker cables (will remain nameless, but very expensive) with his Leben/Devore 0/96/Harbeth SHL5s and was blown away by the WE/Belden combo (me too!). The Bro' is making the switch. Best, Rob
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Grannyring, Jet, why not write Jeff Day about your new findings with the various different WE gauge, terminations such as Canare f10 and shielding, etc. I believe Jeff and many of his blog reader's including Shirokazu Yazaki-san would be immensely impressed and fascinated by what you have discovered. Jazz, you and Mitch2 as well. Best, your fanboy, Rob
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A poster on Jeff Day Blog has apparently located a 1,000 foot reel of WE16ga wire. I believe he is going to sell some to folks who want/need more of the WE16ga. Best, Rob
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Grannyring, Jet,
hear you. Likely Day spends some time here. I know he was impressed by your work; I'm positive he is also pressed for time and deadlines. Perhaps that is why Day can not experiment to umpteenth degree and sometimes misses out; but I for one have improved my musical pursuit by learning from Day, Yazaki-san, and you and Jet, Charles1Dad. I trust all your ears and skill, plus you are good folks willing to help others. Best, Rob
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Thanks Jet for that report. So far I'm using the WE10ga as power cord from wall with Oyaide R-1 and plate set-up to a Cable Pro power strip with no limiting factors. My Coincident Dynamo 34SE is Connected to the Cable Pro via WE10ga. The Transport and DAC are connected to the same strip via WE14ga. WowWowWow!!! Beautiful tone, texture, emotion, dynamics, soundstage wall to wall, great scale, deep, as well. Nicely layered. The harmonic rightness is spectacular. Male and female voices to die for. No hum, buzz, black background and much, much, more...Synergistic Red Fuses next... |
Jetrexpro,
It is a wonderful happening when you get to your state of satisfaction with an audio system. I'm there with my second/office system. After changing out the stock capacitors for Arizona Green/NOS stock Mallory capacitors and select Ohmite Brown Devil resistors plus WE wire all suggested by Yazaki-san and replacing all the stock tubes, Oyaide wall outlets and plate I believe I am done, save for experimenting with the Synergistic Red or Black fuse. Then
the only other temptation is to up the ante and acquire new speakers? But that will require a much larger amount of cash to top what the Tekton's do. I find a lot of satisfaction in putting together killer second system that compares or beats much of the high price stuff. This particular set-up I have does that. Best, Rob |
Hi Grannyring, Charles, Mitch2,
Charles, the several pair of WE10ga that Grannyring made for me are stellar. Also agree with Mitch2 perception. I've been listening with my Coincident Dynamo/DeVore Orangutan 0/96 (on loan from my brother while he is overseas for some months). Wow!!! Match made in Heaven. Best, Rob
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I believe grannyring is using WE10ga as speaker cable and loves them best of all...perhaps he will see this post and respond. Best, Rob
Charles1Dad, Jetrexpro,
I bought the upgraded Coincident Dynamo Mark II, replaced the capacitors with Arizona Green, Ohmite Brown Devils, and some internal Western Electric 16ga. I also substituted the stock rectifier for ancient Mullard CV378, NOS GEC tubes...with the DeVore 0/96, mind blowing excellent in my 18x24x10 new listening room. Best, Rob |
Charles1Dad...all
Prior to the mods, after break-in the Dynamo was slightly less sweet than the original, Tim Smith, does an excellent review once again on 6moons.com outlining the differences. With mods the Dynamo keeps all the plus quality of larger transformers and power supply with a more organic and natural sound. With the DeVore great tone, texture, bass for me is exactly as I like/want it. Transparency, resolution is there in spades, yet presented in a "real sound" musical manner. Another tip of the hat to Yazaki-san for all his valuable input. Best, Rob
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Jetrexpro, all...
I'm still using the WE16ga as speaker cables, WE10ga power on everything except DAC which is WE14ga. I bought additional WE10ga and will in near term test them out ala grannyring.
I also want you to let you know that the owner of Dueland, after conversations with Jeff Day has been convinced to manufacture a near duplicate of WE tinned copper wire in various gage, 10, 14, 16. Minor mod eliminating the plastic on the inner sleeve, you can read about it on Day's blog, jeffsplace.me.com. Price slightly higher than from Jacobs, but still extremely reasonable. Coming to market through Parts Connection soon. Best, Rob |
