Good Tube amp to drive B&W Matrix 801's


Looking to try a tube amp with my B&W Matrix 801 speakers.
I believe "tube" watts are more than "solid state watts".
This would be my first venture into tubes so I'm looking
for suggestions. Integrated tube amp is not out of the question. Is there a conversion factor for tube watts vs sold state watts?
Thanks to all in advance
128x128rocky
I used Jadis JA30's on them and they were fantastic! I had no problem playing them at loud levels and they controlled the bass well. Everyone who heard this combination couldn't believe it. The quality of the amp is very important. I don't think most 30 watters would do the job.I use a MAC MC2000 on my Nautilus 801's and it is a very good combination.
As above, you'll need extremely high energy amps to do the job well -- tube or ss. As noted above, you'll be easier off with a transistor than a tube -- if only considering the cost of tube watts.
Is there a conversion factor for tube watts vs sold state watts
The conversion rate is, well, 1:1, i.e. when your tube amp manufacturer quotes 50W, he/she means 50W.
Don't confuse the sonic qualities with the energy ratings -- nor the spkr ->amp interface characteristics with the electrical properties:)
There are reasons why we perceive some tube amps as being "louder" than some equivalent output SS amps -- but the "conversion" rate isn't one of them! Cheers
Rocky, I owned this speaker years ago and the Matrix are very current hungry and in my opinion are better served by a high quality solid state amp that can control the 12 inch woofer. Tube watts are more powerful than the stated power rating, but tubes don't seem to have the control of solid state. If you don't mind a looser, more full bodied bass sound then it might work. I would suggest a demonstration. I have heard the Audio Research 600's and the big VTL tube amps on Wilson MAXX and they did a pretty good job, but not a good as the Krell did on my B&W 801's.