pauly,
Read your review.
They sound fabulous. The top/bottom loaded design seems perfect for big soundstage and impact.
Do they work best close or near to the rear wall and out from the corners? |
Thanks for the feedback so far.
Touche' on the bored comment. Sometimes I like to look at new options just because I can.....
I guess I'm just always looking to try (or hear) something different.
I still don't know if there is a single speaker that works best for all kinds of music.
I don't think I have anything currently that would resemble the sound of a good horn loaded design.
The tube/horn point is probably very well taken. I'm not looking to go to tubes in general.
My Carver c-6 does provide pre-amp outputs with a "tubelike" response (God bless Bob Carver...always looking to innovate and provide something different)as well as the solid state outs that I currently use and prefer given my current SS amplification and brothel of speakers.
I think currently, my Ohm Walsh's are still my favorites in general. If I had to keep just 1 pair of speakers, it would probably be the F-5's. |
The Ohms are a great value. They do tend to take somewhat of a bashing on this site though. Many purists who know the history of this line can't get over the fact the current CLS drivers used aren't as sexy as the older, problematic Walsh drivers and have to be hidden in a metal can because they are ugly otherwise.
I do tend to listen to speakers, not look at them. Those JAdis Eurythmies are so cool looking though!!! I think I like the distinctive looks of horn speakers and as a speaker affectionado, I want to have a pair to look at almost as much as to listen to. For example, I would love to have an old Victrola just because of what it represents from an audio engineering sense even though the technology is antiquated in a sound quality sense.
Anyone want to sell me a pair of Eurythmies in my price range????? |
wwwrecords, the near-field monitor idea has always had appeal for me in this room. I'll look into it.
Jax2, I'm definitely looking for some "horn magic" in order to replace what I have. The SET/horn combo would seem to be the place to land eventually from what I've read and heard.
I've done Ok in the 12X12 rooms with both my Dynaudio monitors and the smaller Ohm Walshes. The only thing I don't like is that I have to place them several feet out from the walls in an already small room to get the results I am used to. I would seriously consider a local pair of used khorns maybe if I felt confident about how to handle the room acoustics but I guess I'm not quite there yet. |
Seriously, the appeal of a horn loaded speaker to me are those things that make them distinct and unique, ie the design and nature of the midrange. I don't necessarily need a pair of horns that best my Ohms or other speakers, as long as they do not do the other things badly and infringe upon the strengths. |
Jax2,
HAving lived with Carver tube simulation technology for many years alongside the solid state, I'd say that it effectively "takes the edge off" the sound, or smooths it out dynamically perhaps as tubes might. It would probably help with horns, but I suspect I'd feel like I'd still be missing something much more enjoyable. |
I've gotten some good leads from this thread. Thanks.
My concern with most of the horn loaded designs I've seen in my price range will be bass. I don't think I would be happy replacing any speaker pairs I have with anything horn loaded that did not extend down at least in to the 40hz range.
My room is only 12'X 12'. Corner horns, like a pair of used Klipschorns could work nicely and even benefit me otherwise by opening up more floor space, but I'm wondering if the room is too small for even the Khorn bass design to meet my needs?
Any thoughts on a pair of Khorns in a smaller 12X12 room? |
Another thing I am afraid of is that any horn loaded design will blast me out of the room right out of the gate with my current amp, a 150 w/ch SS Musical Fidelity.
This horn thing is starting to sound more and more like not such a good idea in my case..... |
I've examined some of the options suggested and, if I were to do this, I think I would go the classic/vintage route perhaps with used Klipschorns in the corner in the 12X12 foot room where the Dynaudios are today.
I am still concerned though about what to expect low-end-wise in this small, square room.
Is anybody brave enough to provide a confident vision of what I might expect sonically out of a pair of corner Klipschhorns in a typical 12X12 room, with a dens carpet covered concrete floor, drywall and average ceiling height?
Also, Klipschorns have been around for a while with some slight variation over the years in the standard configuration. Are all Klipschhorns, save those with custom upgrades, created equal? Any variations in particular to levitate towards or steer away from? |
Marco, thanks so much for the info! |
Jaybo,
The Ohms are keepers. I have Dynaudio Contour 1.3 mk II's in the room where I would consider horns.
I haven't crossed the horn bridge yet, but if I were to, the Dynaudios would probably have to go to help finance them.
The problem is I really like those little monitors and am not anxious to part with them either.
I will probably look to give a pair of Klipschorns or some other good corner horns a fresh listen first somewhere if I get a chance. The nice thing about them is that they could go in the corners of the 12X12 room . It would be nice to not have speakers taking up internal floor space in that little room.
Otherwise, I'm very happy with what I have at present.
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Shiva,
Sounds right from what I've read the Khorns have a very discrete sweet spot....it still might work for me. We'll see..... |
These look very nice!
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1212516378 |
Anyone ever heard these "omni-horns" from Duevel?
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1212895210 |
Something new (Cardersound Tybones):
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1216241460 |
Thanks Pauly. They sound fabulous.. Enjoy! |
There is a pair of Klipsch Heresy HBR speakers up for sale on Ebay by a seller in the next town from me that I might be able to pick up and try for not much. I would try these in my wifes sunroom where the Dynaudio monitors are pictured currently in my system listing.
Questions:
- How much are a pair in good working order and condition worth?
- If I do it, what kind of sound should I expect in comparison to a pair of good Dynaudio monitors? BTW the Dyns are rear ported and bass heavy in that room. Speakers in that room have to stay close to the wall. The Heresys seem like a reasonable design to try there in that they are reputably not bass heavy. |
