Geometry for pivot tonearms - calculation errors??


During several threads in Audiogon's Analog forum the question of pivot tonearm geometry was discussed widely and wildly the past weeks. There seems to be a great confusion about the interelation - and interaction - between overhang, offset, effective length, mounting distance and the position of the 2 zero-error points on the arc over the LP's grooved area.
However - the correct tonearm geometry is paramount for the performance of any analog sourced High-end system.

Do we need a new calculation of these parameters?
Is mounting distance a variable factor in a given pivot tonearms geometry?
Can overhang serve as the fixed parameter for a pivot tonearm?
Is effective length a variable or a fixed parameter in pivot tonearm geometry?
Is there anything like an optimum geometry for a given cartridge/pivot tonearm set-up?

I invite all interested in this complex and very important topic to contribute their thoughts. If possible please do include the geometrical derivation for any given theory and opinion.
This might be difficult in some examples, but please try.
By doing so, - this will keep this thread on terms and will make it more valueable for all.
dertonarm

Showing 3 responses by axelwahl

Howdy,
here me meet again.
Just been thinking about Dear Lewm's input, which makes me think to start a thread for the 'poor' V owners i.e. which carts are a GOOD/BEST fit?

I guess we'd mostly look for MCs despite Raul's most extensive experience in MMs.

The cart stylus to mounting hole distance IEC-standard? is in any case to be 9.5 mm for the V arm.
DerTonarm will want to know it a bit more down to the 100th mm so we'll call it 9.52 mm (actually 5/8"). Now for me that begs the question why ICE would have settled for inches?! The mounting hole distance of 1/2" is also not quite metric, now is it?

What do you think? There'd be some folk to give some best fit input?
I use a Windfeld as you know --- and I would not add that to the list of BEST FIT! Amen. Sound great, but not BEST FIT in the alignmnet sense, methinks.

What else can a V owner do? You have mentioned all's fixed, can't even mess around with different flavours A, B, Stevenson...
It's vanilla SME, or go buy some other tone-arm, right?

Best greetings,
Axel
Raul,
you are one of a dieing breed that STILL knows about MMs! That does in way mean to imply that you ONLY know about that.
But how many folks have gone through a truck load of that MM stuff? Nobody I'll ever know I'm sure, so please see it as a compliment and NOT as a limitation.
Bless you,
Axel
PS: so please give me some idea about the Shure V15 on a SME V, now how about that?!
Hi,
I'll think about it. I'd say it sounds the right idea.
Also, I don't want to 'twist' this thread into the wrong direction.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Greetings,
Axel