Funny how streaming/digital still chases that analog benchmark.

@cakyol.....I've been listening to the over 9000 lp's dufus's got rid of for pennies in the eighties on a a kick ass system... 

Don't use the crap about digital recording like your the only one who knows....
I am very aware.....my ears...my ears....my ears...Did it sink in....want to make sure you heard it...in digital some of the information is dropped...
Oh. .but you must be one of those special people that can't hear it.....or won't. ...or thinks it's still natural sounding.....
The fact vinyl has been recorded digitally such as Dire Straights as an early example means sfa to the fact digital is still trying to be analog.....
I don't have to ask an engineer. ..your making assumptions. ..
Perhaps you should ask the engineer if he wants it to sound digital....just what is he attempting to do in his manipulation of those bits...
Another assumption on your part....the vintage of the vast majority of lp's I own...and why.. .. I use tubes in my pre...phono...and amp too...care to make more assumptions about those choices too... 

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The standard has, for decades now, been digital. 17-year-olds do not even know what you are talking about."

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That’s hilarious. Kind of proves the point that analog is the standard digital attempts to copy.... flattery as its known.....
But here is reality....most 17 year olds don’t know wt_ they are talking about let alone understand any of us.... head down face in the phone with ear buds on.....yeah ok.....
Digital has come a very long way, seriously. However.....when a piece of vinyl hits it apex in playback.
..digital is still just trying to be that....
Why not just enjoy the choice and accept reality. One has been trying to sound like the other since the very early eighties.....
Its funny ..... the argument that oh I can access a kajillion songs streaming.....but if a guy owns over 9000 lp’s. ..the same wet blankets say you could never listen to them
all.... it would take years...
Just accept it....our human ears are tuned analog....its natural ......
I’m thankful for all playback options....but R2R and vinyl are what came before digital.
Digital that’s spent 40 years trying to imitate what tape and vinyl already can playback....
I get it ...vinyl is more work and gotten even more expensive. ...so I can see why some dont want to or have the funds it can cost even with just the lp’s cost... The rest well...just too lazy to put the cheezies down....😉
All kidding aside, accept the part that R2R / vinyl are the standards all digital looks to be...
Chill out....make it about the music.... whatever the format.

But in my living room it Has2be vinyl or R2R even the tuna gets time in while cooking..... Digital in the car, on the bike, on the trails....
To me it’s "best feature" is its portability......

The standard has, for decades now, been digital. 17-year-olds do not even know what you are talking about."

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That’s hilarious. Kind of proves the point that analog is the standard digital attempts to copy.... flattery as its known.....

Something is wrong with this explanation. It has2be.

"But here is reality....most 17 year olds don’t know wt_ they are talking about let alone understand any of us.... head down face in the phone with ear buds on.....yeah ok....."

Maybe they would understand older people better....if older people made sense.

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More funny....in your own rant void of anything more than slight....YOU are the older people not making sense...ironic

Go ahead....try and prove what I said that digital isn’t trying hard to be analog sounding by nature isn’t true. My digital spinner is an Esoteric so I’m not a non believer in digital...
But I’m not a dolt who can’t see (or hear ) that both industries have pushed the music to not sound like the 80’s roll out of digital. The best machines have always emulated that analog sound vinyl has and it’s non fatiguing quality. You see....your argument and slight is moot when it comes to those realities. You can argue your opinion all you want....and I’ll defend you to have it as well.
Because your opinion is choice....but you can’t change the fact of how we got here and why and what the optimal goal in sound is. The bar was set....you just haven’t actually heard it I guess....

@Goopson...@Goopson...

" has2be,

It may be the age difference between us that makes your posts logically incomprehensible. It is my fault for trying to understand them.

Your choice of a CD player is impressive, but has2be a little inconvenient when going around town. Being younger, I mostly use earphones"


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Well, Goopson. Perhaps you can’t comprehend because your reading retention is like digital. It purposely omits half the information....like this...
"Digital in the car, on the bike, on the trails....
To me it’s "best feature" is its portability."
You still can’t manage a logical and sound argument back at the context I provided ... insults don’t quite do that..right , goopson.... oh and so you don’t hurt your wrists..I’m not advocating headphones in the car...just on the bike and the trails....
So ...still waiting...is digital not been trying to sound more analog and that’s the bar set...
Please do tell ...logically of course....but I degress. ...your still arguing which is better based on ownership bias...not the context of what and who was and still is chasing who...

Here is something else your comprehension digitally glossed over....
" Digital has come a very long way, seriously."
I stand by that. It’s a fact. Digital these days is very good. In some ways exceptional. But an original pressing of a well recorded lp in the hands of someone who actually knows how to set up and get the music out of the grooves. ..sorry Gloopson. ... obviously you don’t have the ability or patience to do or comprehend. ..you obviously haven’t heard good playback with vinyl or tape for that matter to not get what I’m saying.....anyone who has , gets it immediately.
Now the argument of hassle , cost , maintenance and effort...those arguments have merits worthy of challenge....the context of what and who is trying to sound as good as the other can...no..not at all...it is just that....a chase...one that remarkably isn’t over....

@golfmd2
I agree with your post mostly.
The value should be the music itself.....once we go...it usually does become about something else....never understood owning unplayed sealed records though...

@Goopson

And yet another assumption by Goopson.....your blinders at your age are remarkable...
More insults no meat....we’re not talking about how good headphones are ..... which by the way..
The old relics of the seventies for headphones were quite good...just somewhat less portable and less likely to be fed over compressed hs.......
So your so in tune with 17 year olds eh...Goopson....wonder why that is... funny you still use insults to respond back to the sarcasm, sent in reply to your own insults...predictable. ....
But no metric on the context forwarded....you can’t see the question till you move your self bias out of the answer.....
So what amazingly produced music are 17 year olds listening to these days....Since you seem to know....I’d ask my 4 kids or their six kids....but you seem to have assumed you and you alone are all knowing...... Which is actually impossible when your being so dismissive. .... in fact so much so....you still can’t see the context or the appreciation I alluded to.....are you 17.... that would explain a lot...or just so in tune you beleive your above us all....that also would explain more and much more plausable. ......
No wonder all those true knowledgeable guys that once flourished here don’t post anymore.....I mean with guys like you....why would they...

@ bluemood

I can relate. I have a daughter into vinyl as well. I also learn from her and my others the newest forms and ways. I agree we can learn from them.... but I must also concede....it seems more a rarity in general now to observe it.....sadly....

@Larry

If you can hear the needle tracking from your seated listening position....their is nothing wrong with your ears...
Now your ability to properly set up and play vinyl without the noise. ...thats on you...
Digital is good so is convenience....but dismissing something you didn't master isn't quite the same argument. Its just reassuring yourself on why you chose digital....and that's a reasonable choice...
Too many of us have very quiet playing analog front ends to make your experience the norm...
The important thing is, choice. That's what is so good about this Era. 

@Goopson

has2be,

"I am not sure if you have noticed it, but you have been insulting me in virtually every post you have posted and multiple times in each of those posts....."


You get what you give goopson.  Its amazing your ability to twist and now you want to play victim .
Your first post directed at me was insulting and I hadn't even referenced or acknowledged you...you get what you give..
And using grandkids to bolster you as victim and me as the bad guy....glad to see your wearing your skirt again...