Footers Under Power Conditioners?


I own a Audioquest 7000 and I am wonderin’ if a set of Critical Mass footers would provide any benefit?
They are a little expensive to just try, so, has anyone had experience with this combination?

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@facten ,
You're welcome. If you find the Les Davis pads too expensive, you might want to try some constrained layer damping material from a supply house. It could be that Les Davis contracts with one of them and has them made to his specs with logo attached.

Also, I ended up with using just one pad per end on my Niagara 1200 as it stands on it's side. I thought 2 were great until I tried just one layer which gave me the best results. Each additional layer only lessened the highs, air and detail.

All the best,
Nonoise
My Niagara 1200 sits behind my couch on the floor, wall to wall carpet. That is where it will remain. Suffice to say I think it is stupid to think you could possibly perceive whether it is supported by spikes or hemispheres or cones or whatever....I'll go with expectation bias. It's a power conditioner, nothing more. Now, a turntable or cd player? Well then, yes I believe you should spend time getting those isolated/supported properly.
Do you think it's stupid that it came with footers already in place as well as more to be used in case you were to place it on its side? 
Do you think it's stupid to believe it is immune from vibrations?
Do you think it's stupid to be so intellectually lazy as to fall back on the expectation bias meme?

All the best,
Nonoise


I wonder if a meteor passing a million miles away could change the earth’s magnetic field to a point where it may affect the output of my MM cartridge....
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If the space shuttle were transported right in front of your house, I doubt you'd hear it......


@facten ,
 I got them from someone stateside who no longer sells them. What I did find was Bespoke Audio Group: [email protected]
You used to be able to get them on amazon. I don't think they'll sell direct as long as there's someone stateside representing their product.

https://www.lesdavisaudio.com.au/products-meme
It looks like he's been very busy since when I got my 3D2, which were circular and not the squares he now sells. He's got three more products as well.

All the best,
Nonoise
I found the perfect solution for my needs. Before buying anything else, I experimented with what I had on hand and that included some really old Audioquest squishy footers, the kind you can literally ball up in your hand using a tight grip. You know, the ones that leave that messy residue wherever they're placed.

It wasn't half as bad as the Herbie's extra firm squares but still it fogged the highs and surrounding air. Next up were some Les Davis constricted layer damping pads, which are about as thin as two sheets of paper. Using three at each end of the Niagara 1200 (the pads are wide enough to support the width of the 1200) brought about a wonderful increase of body in everything, especial the bass. Not a hint of texture or detail was lost at the expense of some really thickened bass which was very tactile in feel.

Vocals took on a level of realism making it all the more corporal. Think mouth, throat and chest. Highs were more fleshed out as well but I thought it could use a bit more air and lightness. Taking one pad out on each end was the ticket. No loss of body with an increase in air, decay and extension.

It seems the light weight of the 1200 (just over 15 lbs) didn't take to the type of footer that a much heavier item would need. I had a similar experience with my OPPO 103 when I tried the Isoacoustic Oreas as footers: it just killed the highs and bloated the mids and bass. Going with the Les Davis pads under the footers solved that as well, and the OPPO only weighs about 11lbs., so there's something relatable here.

All the best,
Nonoise
@lowrider57 ,
Thanks, I looked into them and they look similar to a few others out there. Time to experiment.
I thought I was done with my system for the time being.

All the best,
Nonoise
Reading this thread, I thought that this was a bit off the charts, even for me. Well, I tried something of Herbie's that he long longer makes: a 1,1/4" square that is 1/4" thick and harder than his Tenderfoots. 

I used them under my Niagara 1200 (no transformer), placed on a bamboo cutting board, which is how I originally had it, with nothing in between.

From what I've read, something as soft as a Tenderfoot would tilt the sound far too downwards so maybe these would do something less offensive. 

They did change the sound by fogging up the highs some and putting more emphasis on the mids and bass. I listened intently for over an hour with a few CDs and went back to my normal set up using no kind of footer, which sounded best, between the two set ups, but now I have some doubts as to just what would sound best overall. 

Never thought this would happen.

All the best,
Nonoise