Focal Sopra 3 vs Wilson Audio Sasha W/P (series 1)


I have Wilson Audio Sasha 1s.  I'm considering Focal Sopra 3.  
I have ARC Ref seperates and Transparent Ultra cables. 
Room is 14x21x10' (speakers on 14' wall)
I like to change and experiment with new gear quite often, but what would I likely be gaining?  What might I be giving up?  
Thanks!
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Assuming you still have the ARC 75 amps, it looks to me like you're going to make the same mistake as you did with the Sasha's.

Just not enough current to drive either the Sasha's or Sopra 3 properly.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/focal-sopra-no3-loudspeaker-measurements

Because the magnitude is considerably higher in the treble, the speaker will sound brighter when driven by tubed amplifiers, with their typically high output impedances. 

Your money, your choice. Good luck with the new system.

Thanks for pointing that out. I appreciate it! I don’t find the Sashas too bright in my room. It’s pretty damped w pile
carper and treatments.
I wish the comment in the review were more specific. I think putting all tube amps under the same comment might be incomplete. But, I’m no engineer, so maybe it does apply to flea watts and higher current lIke ARC.
Thanks
If you like the sound of ARC, why not look into a bigger ARC amp first.
If that doesn't appeal, then I would consider looking for a speaker with an impedance that doesn't drop below 4 ohms.

I had the ARC Ref 150 with KT150s with the Sasha 1s and felt that it was a significantly better amp for that application than the Ref 75 which did not properly push the Sashas (even though the combo sounded very good).  ARC and Wilsons are very synergistic. I would move up in  ARC amperage.  
Assuming you still have the ARC 75 amps, it looks to me like you’re going to make the same mistake as you did with the Sasha’s.
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Wilsons luv current, big tubes will do, but still can't equal a good SS like a Gryphon or D'agostiono ect ect ect for getting the very best out of the Wilsons.

Cheers George 
Thanks George.  I appreciate the input.  
Thanks gogr4blu.  I’m considering that.    
Okay. So I’ve decided on the Sopra 3, and have listed my ARC gear. 
Anyone have more thoughts on gear (not Naim) that mates well?
 Thanks!
Well I am using the Bob Carver 350 mono blocks with my Sopra 2's.

ozzy
@ozzy  Wow!  That's some big Ws. 
Anyone use Pass Labs or SimAudio Moon?
I would think they would be a good matches...?

My BAT VK-600se is awesome with my Wilson Sasha 1's and I expect it would be with the Focal also. It has seemingly unlimited power and drive that is shocking with a speaker that has the Sasha low wnd extension and dynamics.

Good Luck!

Bill

Sopra 3s are to be delivered today, but I'm not sure what good a comparison would be at this point.  I've completely changed my system. 
Moon by Simaudio 600i
Shunyata Cables 
Lumin T1 (only constant)

I was offered a tremendous deal on the Sopra 3s, so I decided it was a great chance to get off the Wilson + ARC + Transparent Audio train. I'm hopeful about Sopra + Simaudio, but my history would tell me it's a (brief) stop before getting back aboard the train. 

Some of you know the drill; you can't un-hear what you've heard in your room.  For me that high-water mark is Alexia (1) + ARC Ref 5SE + ARC Ref75 + Transparent Ultra... Anything less in those brands, has just been a tease.  

Here's to hoping!
Mikel




I think you will be surprised how well the sopra 3s sound with the right gear.   I switched from set amps and horns to the sopra 3s with a ss amp and tube pre.  Mike