Focal Kanta No.2 speakers - any thoughts? Also in comparison with Sonus Faber Olympica 3s?


Hi,

I am very excited about these new speakers and am looking for some help with a decision I am trying to make. I have an opportunity to buy a used (mint) pair of Sonus Fabre Olympica iii speakers for around $7000 but unfortunately can’t audition them for too long due to travelling schedule and as the seller is moving out soon. The Focal Kantas sounded very good to me (driven by a Devialet 130 pro) at the dealers but the Olympica IIIs  also sounded good albeit possibly a bit more laid back (they were driven by an Audio Research tube preamp and a pass labs power amp). Also, the listening room at the seller's place was not at all ideal/treated so is difficult to do a fair comparison. 

Compared to almost all other speakers I have seen so far the Olympicas are the most beautiful and almost high-end furniture like but the new Kantas don't give the Sonus any advantage in this regard as they are also really lovely looking speakers with many different finishes!  I am planning to run wither of these speakers with a Prima Luna Dialogue HP integrated amp so any feedback in that regard will also be much appreciated. 

If anyone here has heard both these speakers, any suggestions on whether the new Kantas are possibly worth giving up on the Olympicas at $7,000?  The Kanta's are retailing at a bit under $10,000.  If I decide on the Kantas then I will push out the purchase until I can find a better discount at some stage but if with the Sonus then will have to buy right away.

Thanks!
rsure

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Thank you for your response tablejockey.  In your experience would the PL HPs be a good match with both the Olympicas and the Focal or do they suit one of them more?

Thank you all very much for your responses and help with this.

@markmendenhall - my experience is almost exactly what your dealer describes.  When I heard the Focal Kantas for the first time I was just blown away with the clarity and how "clean" they sounded especially  compared to the other speakers I had heard earlier on the same day (Focal Electras 1028be/1038be and the Aria 936).  This is what got me excited about them because I was not in the market looking for speakers in that price range.  The only reason I did was to compare them with the Olympicas IIIs which I now have an option to buy pre-owned.

My initial thoughts on the Kantas were that while they sounded great would they be a bit too bright or forward over longer listening sessions.  I think the Beryllium tweeters definitely have some magic about them though.  Also don't know how much the Devialet 130 Pro has influencing the clear/forward sound.    

The Olympica IIIs on the other hand sounded much more relaxed to me and I thought they needed to be played louder to sound good which I'm not sure is a good thing with any speaker. 

I'm also now a bit concerned that all the amps you'll have recommended for the Olympicas (Pass Labs 150.8, 250.8 and Hegel H30) are more expensive and much more powerful than the Primaluna HPs and wondering if the PL HPs would not be enough to push the Olympica IIIs well enough?

@tablejockey- the speakers will be in a reasonably largeish room 18" * 17" (it's the living room hence the requirement for reasonably nice looking speakers) but unfortunately this room opens out a bit on one side (to the side of one of the speakers)  to a long corridor (33" * 4.5") and on the opposite side to a dining area (about 17" * 9").  To add to this I don't have much room to place the speakers too far apart from the walls.  I can keep them about 1.5" away from the back walls and about 2" away from the side wall (this applies only to the speaker on the left while facing me as the one of the right has the long corridor on it's side).  Sorry about the description, really hope that made some sense!   
Do you think the Olympicas IIIs would work well in such a space?

The pressing matter for me now is to decide whether the Olympicas IIIs at the price ($7000) are not worth losing out on or if I should hold out and wait for something better at a similar price (what?) later on or save the purchase for later and stretch a bit more for something like the Kantas or even Sopras if I can find a good price.  Unfortunately though I don't have access to AG and all the great deals on pre-owned gear as I don't live in the US. 

Thanks again for all the responses, really do appreciate it!  
Thanks guys for all the feedback, really do appreciate it.

@tablejockey  I tried the Cardas room placement calculator and it suggested I keep the speakers 7' away from the rear walls!  In my room that would be like 2 "guests" with me all the time in the living room :-) . I agree though that in our regular world nothing is going to be ideal.

I have done a lot of research on the Primaluna HPs and all the feedback seems to be really good.  I've also seen Kevin Deal's (Upscale Audio) reviews and videos but not sure if he's the right person for an unbiased opinion since he is their main distributor (although the way he campaigns for the Prima Lunas it feels like he's a part owner)!  I don't mean that in a bad way, I do appreciate his passion for the product and the facts that he points out do seem to make sense to me.  But you're right given his experience with all the 3 brands in question he would have useful insights on how the PL HPs match up with the Olympicas vs. the Focals and I do intend to reach out to him on that.  

@djfst and @nnnnny - thanks for writing in, I will be messaging you'll.

Hi sorry about the silly question but how do I message individual members of the group?
Thanks again for the feedback.  Where I'm located it is not easy to sell used equipment given the small market for these products and so I need to be reasonably sure that I'd hold on to something for a while before buying it.  And so I've decided for now to not rush into the purchase and audition a few more speakers before making the decision.  If the Olympicas get sold before that I'll just consider that a sign that they weren't for me ;-)

On another note, I just recently read about the new Magico A3 announcement and that has me super excited given that they cost the same as the Kanta's!!  It's just speculation on my part but I'd expect them to be better than the Kanta's for sure?!  Of course will have to wait for it to be released and more importantly have a listen before reaching a conclusion.  But I for one feel like it's worth putting off my purchase for now and wait for the A3s!

What do you'll think - are you'll excited about the new "cheaper" Magicos too?