Flat Records?

After very long time listening to Reissues I think, the problem is not in the Vinyl mix.
Even Classic Records can‘t be blamed for it.
The Problem is in the quaility control in the Pressing Process. Evrything which is in combination with heat and cooling is bad today.

I use for my cleaning an improved Monk RCM, the best you can buy for money. Even after some cleanings I had these pics and pops (reduced step by step) and after a while I noticed, that these ticks and pops are always at the same place.
You will never have that with old records, when you clean them, it is done (except scratch)

This is definetly a fault made from the Manufacturer, I think, those people who are responsible for surviving the cooling process, the separation etc. are not good in their job.

There is still some material IN THE GROOVE.
Worst is RTI. (I guess, those made the pressings for Classic Records).

Anyway, it is the way it is. What to do?
I am afraid, we have minor chances for improvement.
Even a RCM is no guaratee for success, but using one is better than nothing. The next step, which is pretty good, you scrub the record with your cleaning solution of choice WITH a Magic Eraser.
That is pretty good, but after that you need a RCM to remove the fluid with the
„dirt“ in it. But when that is done and you have still noise, then it is done.

I buy my records depending on the Press-Manufacturer. Here the Japanese ones are superior. You see, it can be done right.
Or going back to old records.
I closed the Reissue chapter.
Knowledge is gone, Know How is gone, the right people are gone, the old vinyl mix is gone....
I will do one more try with the new Clarity vinyl from CR, but only because I read they left RTI and went to someone else ...

with 'records' it always about 'degrees'....its not a perfect medium, and it really never was....only the quirkiest and most fun. new or old, they're a beautiful thing.

I have received several heavy vinyl records that are warped. I thot the heavy records would be better, but im not so sure they are any better than standard issue, just more expensive.

Some asked about cleaning new records before the first use. I do find that I typically do clean each new record before I play them for the first time.

This is a great question. To further the discussion, I purchased a VPI peripheral ring and center weight recently. After a few weeks I noticed (for some odd reason) that the peripheral ring would wobble up and down very slightly. This was unnerving, but it actually changed in its degree of wobble with each record. I can only come to the conclusion that these records (many of which were 180 g and 200 g vinyl) are not only warped, but have varying degrees of thickness, especially around the perimeter.

I have purchased many re-issues from wdcdradio. They were mostly Bluenotes, and older R&B and jazz LP's. Not a single one of them have ever been warped. I have ordered many from soundstage direct and none of them have been warped either. None of these have been 180gm or higher either. None of the LPs have had that flop to them like some vinyl did during the 80's. I have been ordering from them for several years and I have gotten very good quality in sound and performance. Maybe the QC problem is with the thickness of the vinyl or the quality of the vinyl being used. But my standard LP's have been flawless over the past 3 or 4 years.

BTW, do you typically clean your new records before playing them the first time?

I complained to Classic about a damaged rrecord, I wanted a refund or exchange-never heard from them. That said, I understand that sometimes "audiophile" LPs are not "dehorned" before going to the consumer. That means you need to play the record a few times to scrap off the excess vinyl. Dehorning can actually destroy some of the sound quality so that is the justification for not doing it. The record should sound better after a few plays. Good luck.

Funny that you should ask that question; yes, I sent Classic Records an email just on that topic. Wonder if they will respond?

Stickman451,
We all wounder the same thing. It seems the more we spend the worse vinyl records become. They can not keep up quality with the demand being so high. Some also worry if vinyl is going to last. They put out as much product as they hope will sell while the going is good and before the bubble may bursts. QC is gone and how much money can be made is its replacement.
IMHO.

A good question. Thousands of analog Listeners ask themselves that every day.
Did you send this question to Classic Records, too? :-)

Well, I bought a Basis Turntable with Vacuum some years ago...I use it very often in the Reissue Era :-)