Sorry I've never heard the Accuphase before, but I really like the sound of Gryphon, so I guess that would be my vote. (I own the Diablo 300 but have heard the coliseum multiple times.) Rich and very transparent with a large soundstage.
Really excited to hear about the new Essence amplifiers coming out!
Yes; I have heard the Diablo 300; very nice sounding integrated, if not the tiniest bit harsh. I heard the Colosseum, extremely natural. That’s why I’m looking class A. The Essence is due first couple of months 2020.
Retail will be in the $23,000 range from US distributor, still costly but
$4000 less than Accuphase A-75.
Good form audiobrian old chap. A guy responds favorably to your post and you delicately tell him his amp is the "tiniest" bit harsh.
Thanks for your feedback. I certainly meant no disrespect to rshad0000 or the Diablo 300. My apologies; I own the Diablo 120 and I am looking for a slightly smoother presentation for my aging ears. Hence my interest in the Gryphon Essence or Accuphase A-75.
Audiobrian, truly sorry for being snarky. It has not been a good morning at this end.
No offense taken. Audiobrian - I agree with you and think you are dead on. The Essence, even though expensive, is at least within my price range and will more than likely have those smooth class A highs, with the Gryphon iron fisted bass control, that I'm looking for.
BTW - I also have a Octave V80SE, with super black box, which I really like as well. It doesn't have the bass control or quite the transparency of the Diablo, but its has some terrific sounding mids and highs.
Thanks for your post. As we know well, our Diablos are very fine integrated amplifiers but I perceive a touch of stridency at moderate to high volumes, most notably with rock or demanding music. Yes, I am looking forward to the release of the Gryphon Essence. Although I really enjoyed auditioning the Colosseum, it was beyond my reach. I will audition the Essence, though, as it’s power 50/100/190 is lower than I’m accustomed to, and there is a shared transformer with dual secondaries. Shouldn’t be much of a problem though as class A watts seem more potent in controlling the loudspeakers. Please share your experience when you get to hear the Gryphon Essence at a show or personal audition.
Hi Jetter: No worries; thanks for the note. BTW, If you have any experience with Gryphon or Accuphase, please weigh in at your convenience.
Thanks audiobrian for your kind note, no experience with Gryphon or Accuphase, over my budget, using Parasound A21+ and modified Museatex Meitner monoblocs.
Both very good amps.
The Accuphase would probably use global feedback, where I'm sure the Gryphon's I believe all use local feedback, which has always to me if done right sounds better in the vocals body department .
Without hearing them side by side, my money would be on the Gryphon's.
I have both Gryphon (Diablo 300) and Accuphase A70 ( very similar to the recently released A75). Both are absolutely sensational amps. If you ask me to pick a difference, I would say the Accuphase sounds a little smoother and refined in the highs and the Gryphon is more muscular/ballsy especially in the bass. This difference is not pronounced. I will tell you that the Accuphase A70 at used prices (about 9000 to 10000 dollars) is a fantastic value. For the difference in the price between a used Accuphase A70 and a new Gryphon Essence, you can buy a world class preamp (I use an Ayre KXR 20).
Hi Soix: thanks indeed for the suggestion. I’ve owned Clayton before and liked it very much. I would like to try a non bridged class A design this time around.
Hi apdoc2004: the A-70 is a fine suggestion. I’ll consider this as a third less costly option. I must admit that having heard the class A Gryphon Colosseum, makes the Essence very attractive. (Albeit more costly)
What preamp will you use with your amp? Will it be the matching pre from Gryphon or Accuphase?
I always wanted an Accuphase. I’m a huge fan of Japanese engineering and assembly.
I’m probably gonna stick with my VAC Renaissance mkV; I’ve been using VAC preamps for 15 years with both tube and solid state amplifiers; always sound great to me.
Hi aberyclark: Yes; the Accuphase A-75 is a most attractive option to say the least. Not to start another bipolar vs mosfet debate, I do slightly prefer the sound of Mosfets, as in the Accuphase.
Any update on you amp choice after about 2 months?
1 for Gryphon, https://www.stereo.net.au/news/gryphon-essence-pre-and-power-amplifiers-world-premiere
You’ll never read manufacturers that use Mosfet output transistors talking about current ability into low impedance's like this.😒
" Power is the name of the game, and the Essence is equipped to take on even the most vicious and nightmarish of loudspeaker loads. The output section uses Sanken bipolar output devices which have demonstrated extreme reliability in addition to outstanding sonic performance. The Essence Stereo employs 20 transistors per channel, while the Essence Monoblock features 40 of these devices per unit. These transistors can be called upon to deliver massive amounts of momentary peak power without overload."
You are going about this the wrong way.What you should be doing is stating what speakers you own and asking people with the same speakers which amplifiers in their experience sound best.Speaker/amplifier synergy is always the most important consideration.
New Accuphase E-800 (INT) coming out by the end of the year. Just something to consider. 5K-6K more expensive than the E-650 supposedly.
Just curious, what do you mean by final amp? Are you talking about for the next 10 to 20 years, or more?
By final amplifier, I do mean one that will deliver excellent sound with my VAC Ren V preamplifier and a KEF Ref 3 loudspeakers for 10 plus years.
i have not been able to audition a Gryphon Essence due to availability and have not made a class A decision. I did pick up a used GamuT D200i which I’m enjoying and am very impressed with its organic presentation and compatibility in my system.