Favorite CD treatment Products


Has anyone out there tried/compared CD treatment products such as the Auric Illuminator or Essence of Music treatment? Any preferences or comments on these products?
lubachl

Big vote for Auric Illuminator! Did a side by side with 10 CD duplicates. My wife and I treated one of each pair, shuffled pairs and did the blind test. Treated disk was clearly better every time. Not even close. At first I thought it might be making treated disk louder but DB meter picked up no increase. Music was distinctly crisper, cleaner, more dimensional. Similar to component upgrade in quality enhancement. On like 5th kit from Audio Advisors. (Also put 5 1/4 inch spokes of marker from center to outer rim on topside. And I color in center top and top outer rim) (Haven't done blind test on those actions however...need too)  

Gentlemen all.

  Info on any CD is received & transmitted to the decoder.

I've tried most all of the so called bring the music cleanly to my ears "PLEASE."  liquid solutions available.

Not sure if they work?? Here's my ACID TEST. Apply to just one half to

your CD. Dry and play. What effect will you HEAR?? Hmmm!

                                       TRY IT..,

My bottom line is. I use denatured alcohol. Leaves no residue.

           Applied with my wife's make-up removal pads.

The Laser beam sings ( I can see clearly now.)

(1) 8oz bottle $ 2.25=cleans Appox: 125 CD's correctly


Jafant: As I understand it, a key ingredient became unavailable and couldn't be replaced, and that's why the Jena was discontinued. 

Geoff: I still have a bottle or two of the Liquid Rez hanging around, and it's great stuff. Sad to hear about Brian. I knew he was ill, but I lost contact with him and didn't know he had passed (I had my suspicions, though). He was a really nice guy.
Liquid Resolution was in the top three for sure but went away when Brian Kyle RIP of Extreme AV passed a couple years ago. I only bring it out, what's left, for special occasions. 
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Why did the Jena Labs product(s) go away?
It seems the best treatment products get discontinued or goes away in a mysterious way???
My fave was the Jena Labs Esoteric 3D-X as well. It made the biggest positive difference of all the many treatments I tried. It wasn't the easiest to work with, but it did some pretty amazing things to the sound. When it was discontinued, I switched to Ultrabit Diamond Plus, and that's been absolutely fantastic. A little different tonally than the Jena, but really, REALLY good.
Every treament seems to have a different effect, I havent tried Essence but have a number, a fav was the discontinued Jenalabs treament which really added clarity and dynamics.

The nanotech is very clean sounding and also have the steinmusic solution which makes for a very natural sound.

I will typically use for a bright sounding disc, the steinmusic and on a flatter sounding disc the nanotech.

Have used Finyl from many years back and Auric, but never really fancied them.

The Jenalabs, now discontinued was the most dynamic I  found but did tend to add some brightness or sharpness, again its effects were too much on certain disc but gave the biggest effect I felt compared to the other I have tried.


Folks,
Cotton cloth.
Regardless of the CD cleaning/polishing methods, I've found the best method is to use the cotton makeup balls available at any pharmacy store. Use and dispose. NEVER any scratches. Cheap.
Happy listening.

Happy New Year!

yes there are great products to keep our shiny, silver discs in tact.
I am not looking for enhanced performance, as much as, protecting my CD/SACD collection.
Here's a very unflattering "review" of this and similar products:
http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=2342

And a more flattering one:
http://singaporehifi.blogspot.com/2014/05/essence-of-music-two-step-cd-cleaner.html

And Geoff Kait's review:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/essence-music-cd-treatment

I have used Auric Illuminator in the past and do not detect any enhancement or improvement.  But, if others do, that's fine.
I just treated 5 discs this evening with no scratches. When I wipe, I use one side of the cloth to pick up most of the liquid, then the other side to dry the disc. I don't use much pressure, just light pressure under strong light so I can watch as the liquid is absorbed and the disc gets polished.
I did notice in the past I could scratch a disc easily by using too much pressure or by using a crease, or fold in the cloth.
I kind of doubt they examined the CDs they treated during the review. Why would they? Who would have thought the micro fiber cloth would scratch a freakin CD? Hel-looo!
To those concerned about fine scratches on CDs using microfibre cloths (and I'm NOT singling out EOM), info at this guitar forum site might be of interest. It appears that not all microfibre is created equal.

http://prsguitars.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7914.html
See one of the discussion participant's full comments at the link above.
Excerpt here:
"A good microfiber cloth like these will not harm your nitro finish, and in fact, they are less harmful than even soft cotton or flannel cloths. I learned this as a concours car guy with fine lacquer finishes. I use these on my nitro-finished Private Stock and my V12 stuff, and have no swirl marks:

The secret of a good fluffy cloth like this is that the filaments of the fabric are even finer than cotton fibers. You don't have to rub as hard.

It's easy enough to check - take a cotton cloth and rub it hard on something like a clear plastic CD case, then do a different spot with the microfiber. You'll see swirl marks where you used the cotton, and not the microfiber."

The microfibre cloth he's recommending is used for auto detailing.
See link here:
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/micro+fiber+speed+shine+cloths+set+of+3.do?sortby=%20ourPicks
I have been using EOM for quite a while and have treated over 100 CDs and I haven't had an issue with scratching using the supplied cloths. I have only experienced the improvements many have mentioned above. I certainly have never had a CD skip or not play after treatment.

I haven't experimented with treating a CD more than once so I can't comment on that.

Don P.
I can't imagine Essence of Music (using supplied) cloth NOT causing scratches. I run ALL CDs I have cleaned with EOM so far with a very mild concoction of dishwashing liquid and water first...and then air dry...to make sure it's totally dust and "sand" free. I believe the 2nd "wiping" of the process causes most of the scratches. I don't see how those reviewers...ie....Jack Roberts from Dagogo and Roy Harris from Audiophilla could not have noticed the scratches that where caused. Surely they must have inspected each CD after it was cleaned.

If they only reported what they noticed...maybe we would all have been spared of having our prized CDs scratched. Maybe EOM would have no choice but to find an alterntive "non scratching" cloth.
Yes, I always make sure there is no sand or dirt or small boulders in the liquid or on the CDs. I also never ever treat the CDs during a sandstorm or mudslides or typhoons.

;-)
I have never experienced such issue with essence of music. Ive always used supplied cloth and of course makes sure the cd doesnt have sand or dust on it.
They are lint free but not sterile. But the point is they won't scratch the CDs. Don't use them on a gash on your arm. Lol
Thanks, Geoff. Those are huge too but I think unlikely to be sterile...not that sterility is critical. Main thing is, you are assuring us they do not scratch? Thanks for the heads up on this. As I mentioned, the concern is probably not unique to EOM as I've seen fine scratches produced when using "MagicFibre" microfibre clothes as purchased for cleaning eyeglasses, etc..
Ghost, Ooops, I just found the pack of cloths I couldn't find yesterday. They were in the last place I looked. Lol they are Caldrea lint free cleaning cloths, 100% cotton, 6 pack of large cloths, 16" by 26" - $24.99 all day long on Amazon.com
Ghost, I don't have the name of the sterile cotton cloths, sorry, can I suggest contacting the fellow who sells EOM. The link to the EOM web site is,

Essence-of-music.com

Hope that helps.

GK
Geoff - once again, what are the cotton cloths that were recommended to you? Will you please provide a link? Thanks.
@Geoffkait. Thanks for the tip. May I know where can one purchase sterile cotton cloth from?
Yes, Geoff- tell us about the cloths that you are using. This would be most helpful. Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
The secret methinks is using the right cotton cloth. Since I switched to the sterile cotton cloth (recommended to me by the inventor of EOM) I have not experienced any more scratches. It's is extremely unlikely the problem is with the liquids as they are quite pure and very fine sprays are produced by the spray bottles. It is possible but unlikely that whilst rubbing the CD with the forefinger after spraying the CD with EOM some dirt on the finger could produce scratches.
Thanks guys...I thought I was doing something wrong.

NB...Unless I totally missed it...NONE of the professional reviewers...from Dagogo and Audiophilia made a mention of this problem. No way they could have missed it. I have treated 25 CDs so far...all of them are scratched. My cdp won't read one of them any longer.
Essence Of Music treatment caused fine scratches in all CD's I tried it on. Using micro fiber or cotton cloth made no difference. I prefer the sonic changes using other approaches when treating CD's.
Microfibre Tech

Helpful article about microfibre technology. Still searching for info about a cotton-based alternative.
I've seen very fine scratches produced w/new, clean microfibre cloths that are not Essence of Music. Geoff - any chance you can provide a link to the ones you are recommending? Thanks. Thought I'd read somewhere fine superficial scratches won't affect audio...not sure, still worrisome.
One must be very careful of the cloths supplied as they might scratch the CDs. Someone dropped the ball on this one. This is very very unfortunate as I alerted my dealer some time ago about this issue. In any case, stop using their cloths and switch to the medical non scratch type of cotton cloth immediately if not sooner.
Question for all essence of music cd treatment kit....after treatment ... Almost all my CDs have countless "scratches". Treated some brand new CDs so I am sure it wasn't there before treatment. Care to check yours under a bright light to see if you are getting the same thing? Micro Fiber cloth brand new out of the box...so it can't be it. Btw...Anyone tried treating a cd twice? Any "improvement" over 1st treatment? Thanks.
The error correction on the dvd player or cd player has to be much less engaged. I think the laser has a clearer or steadier view of the information it is to extract from the cd [with fewer errors]....It's not just playing more detail it is "how" that detail is appearing before me . This makes me believe it is not getting the info onto the cd as much as getting "all" the info back off the cd. The ebb and flow of the music with timber fullness is unlike anything I had previously hear from my cds..Quick story. A carpenter friend dropped in and did some flooring repairs. After finishing he sit back listening to Doug Macleod. He asked what the EOM sticker was on the cover. I took a Greg Brown cd and played a few lines. He loved it. Than I treated the disc with the EOM and replayed the same cut. He was stunned at the results. "It was clear before but now I can hear everything so easy". Than he said "You have a lot of work ahead of you," You'll have to treat every cd you play."
The word invisible can be a little bit misleading since the way CDs work is based on several things, not the least of which are laser wavelength and width, geometry of the disc and CD transport, the index of refraction of polycarbonate and the transparency of the polycarbonate layer of the disc -which is in fact not perfectly transparent. The transparency of polycarbonate is only around 90% or so so even if a particular CD treatment is absolutely transparent to the laser light (infrared) the clear layer is still 90% transparent at best. One would also prefer a CD treatment NOT to affect the Index of Refraction of the polycarbonate layer since that could aftect the geometry that has all been worked out already, no?
Got to thinking about what Geoff asked. What is being left on the disc after buffing, leaving no residue? The first thing that came to mind was putting RainX on my windshield. RainX says it seals microscopic pores of glass with a super-slick, non-stick invisible barrier. So...
I have 2 Freedy Johnston/This Perfect World cd's, one is control, the other RainX treated. As I was treating the disc, I noticed my fingers felt slippery, slick like when I used the EOM. After playing one, then the other over and over again, I noticed no change whatsoever. Hoped for a change, but alas...would have been a cheap tweak if...
@Bluenose & Abucktwoeight...Thank you guys so much for your help in taking the time to explain. Really appreciate it.
Abucktwoeighty has a very fine system. What he is reporting is very similar to what I hear over my smaller system. Do read his comments as I find them very accurate. Thanks again to all the discussion. I never realized cd could be this much plain old fun to listen to.....regards, bluenose
I haven't found extension, but more clarity across the board. As I listen to more treated discs I find they have more information available. I'm hearing many things I didn't in the past making the tracks sound more alive. From the top to the bottom the music sounds more defined. I'm hearing lower bass more clearly in areas I didn't notice was there prior to the treatment. I'm hearing a lot of percussion in the midband I didn't notice before. I think it just allows everything equal space to shine where areas where muddied over before. Like standing at the end of a long hallway hearing the tunes, then walking into the room difference.
@Abucktwoeighty...Hello. Would appreciate it very much if you would be so kind as to give some feedback too on the Essence of Music kit. I'll ask the same question that I asked Bluenose...

"My system is tilted to the top. Fullness and depth are 2 attributes I am seeking...however...I am trying to avoid adding more HF energy/extension to the overall presentation. I realize it's system dependent...but did you notice more HF energy/extension after treatment? Did SQ get crisper/sharper?"

Thanks!

I use Shinola which is not touted as a "treatment" but as a cleaning fluid. Works quite well for that.

Out of curiosity; has anyone ever tried Renaissance* wax (English I believe) polish on a CD? I have some that I use
for other purposes, might give it a shot on a CD.

*acid free micro-crystalline wax
So, what do you think the stuff is doing to the disc, you know, to be able to get more info from the disc? Just curious...
Hi, Pc123v. To answer your question let me explain about my speakers. My system is modest, a rare Luxman L503S, Roxan Zerxes TT, Oppo 105 and I had the Newform Research r8-2's for a long time. A year ago two of my audio friend arrived with the Aero 6's from Cambridge with the BMR drivers and as good as the ribbons were the aeros were what I had to have. They each preferred the Aeros and were shocked at how good they performed. Note, I do use them on IsoAcoustics stands[a must for this speaker]IMO. Even so I can hear more front to back depth from top to bottom. I can show a coherence and flow that was missing until revealed. Now I realize cd is different from analogue but each is good in its own right. I haven't had as much fun listening to music in a long time. Hope that helps. I do use Gershman levation devices and all Audio Sensibility cabeling and power boxes and deicated circuit. You will hear more note fullness with this product.
I've noticed that I'm hearing a lot more of the music that I was missing before. I've been playing discs I've heard numerous times and found that I didn't recognize some of the songs playing because they were so different. For the better. Likey more and more...
@Bluenose...Thanks for taking the time to respond. I haven't bought it yet...though I am extremely tempted to. The main thing that is holding me back at the moment is...My system is tilted to the top. Fullness and depth are 2 attributes I am seeking...however...I am trying to avoid adding more HF energy/extension to the overall presentation. I realize it's system dependent...but did you notice more HF energy/extension after treatment? Did SQ get crisper or sharper?

Many Thanks!
FYI I found out that an application of EOM is long-lasting and is believed to offer a permanent improvement. I just treated a blueray of Sade but haven't played it yet. Apparently this is good for dvds also[which makes sense]. Cheers, bluenose
Ahh. I should have read more. Thanks for the update Abucktwoeighty. That's a very serious system you have. Sweet gear indeed!. cheers, bluenose
The instructions say further improvements often result with multiple applications. The longer you leave bottle #1 on the disc, there are better results.