Experience with Linn Select DSM?


Does anyone have direct experience with the Linn Select DSM system w/ Katalyst?  Please see: https://www.linn.co.uk/sources/network-music-players/selekt#selekt-dsm-with-katalyst

I have decent electronics already (NAD M12 Pre/DAC and M22 Amp) being sourced by a Node 2 server going into the DAC via SPDIF.  I’ve been auditioning other servers to upgrade the Node 2 and in the search process, came across this unit from Linn.  It is elegant and functionally very nice.  The appeal is that I could sell my other gear and have one box that does what I need.  But, I’d only be interested in doing this if it was better overall than what I have.  Unfortunately, I have no local dealers.  I’ve heard it in a nice shop in AZ, but that means nothing as it’s not a comparison to what I have.  Of course, the salesman thought it would be a step up from what I have.  Not surprisingly, I’m skeptical of that claim.  But, it is a cool piece.

So, anybody here with direct experience and insights to share?
mgrif104
I think I know the shop you were in, been there a few times myself.  So I recently switched to a Linn streamer from a Node 2 connected to a Modwright Elyse DAC which sounded VERY good.  I too was skeptical but have been 100% please and amazed by the switch.  The Linn tech is impressive, they have been committed to streaming longer than anyone AND they are upgradeable so your investment is not gone with the next revision.
Azbird

Thanks for the feedback.  One of the reasons I’m interested is because Linn’s commitment and longevity in streaming.  Which unit do you have?  I’m comfortable with the notion that the akurate DAC is probably better than what I have and that the streaming function is an upgrade over the node 2.  Part of the challenge for me is the rest of my system.  It doesn’t seem to make sense (in my mind) to break apart my M12/M22 combo.  And, all inputs into the M12 are converted to PCM (or something like that).  In other words, the Select DSM has a DAC, so I’d be going into the line inputs of my unit and I’m not sure that makes sense.  So, if I do this, it’ll probably be getting the one with the amplifier stage. 

A new server would cost between $2-$4k based on what I’m looking at. Or, I could sell my NAD M12/M22 and get ~$3k and turn around and buy the Select DSM w/ Akurate and amp for about $8k - a net cost of $5k.  Fewer boxes, cooler piece. Better overall?

Sure wish i could audition one at home.  There are no dealers for 300+ miles.  
I am considering this piece if I get a  floor stander and require room correction. The store I went to has 3 units that do similar room correction. 

Anthem STR
Lynddorf 3400
Linn Selekt DSM

I am supposed to have a shootout with these 3 soon but may cancel it because I may ditch room correction and buy a smaller speaker allowing me to stay analogue (not sure yet). 

I did listen to the Linn Selekt DSM already and it sounded rather great. I do not think I would get the amp option for the Linn just based on prejudiced. I listened to the Lynddorf the same day and I did not like the internal amp. An external amp sounded much better. The Linn amp is also not that powerful.

It is unfortunate that the Linn does not have any analog inputs (other that the TT one). They also do not plan to add any other analog inputs, unlike the other 2 units I mentioned. The Anthem seems to have the best configuration options for me.

For what it's worth the dealer who I was working with preferred the Linn unit over the other 2. They are all about the same price.

Linn's argument for room correction is that the microphone based approach is not accurate and the measurement based approach is superior.

I went big and got the Klimax DSM.  I don't know if you have read much about Linn but they believe in Source First approach, that the source is the building block of a sound system. 

So you are debating going for the Select DSM vs DSM + AMP OR go up a level with the Akurate system hub + amp?

Personally I prefer to keep DAC & streamer functions separated from pre-amp & amp, it give you more flexibility down the road to tweek.
@mgrif104 You should take a look at the following comments on Linn on this review. Rather good.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-linn-akurate-d...

Azbird: I’m envious.  I’m sure the Klimax DSM is spectacular! But, it’s outside of my budget.  Would love to hear one side by side the lessor units.  Someday.

I’m thinking your right that I should skip the amplifier section and just go with the streamer/DAC/preamp functions if I do this.  I have a pretty good (and far more powerful) amp that I wouldn’t get any more for than the additional cost of the amp section anyway.  I appreciate the advice.

yyzsantabarbara: thanks for the link to the review.  That was helpful.  It may not be the best measuring unit, but it does seem as if people generally agree the sound is quite good.  That was for the unit above what I’m looking at, but relevant nonetheless.  One constant was that most agreed you pay up for being a Linn owner.  But, it seems the Select DSM might actually be a decent value for me.  

I’m still working out doing this or just upgrading my streamer, but greatly appreciate the input/feedback.

Best,
mgrif

@mgrif104 I posted a question to you on another thread and I see you have answered it already here. I have now heard the Linn Selekt DSM and the NAD M12. I was really impressed by the NAD M12 so much so that the Linn has lowered in my interest. The store I demoed the M12 was also a Linn dealer but did not have the Selekt yet. The lack of analog inputs on the Linn Selekt is a stumbling block.

I was informed that I would not really need DSP my room and the speakers I was interested in so the M12 is now an option.
@mgrif104 I took the plunge into the Selekt DSM Katalyst around the first of the year, so I have about 5 months on it. Do note that this is my first music streamer, and purchased it while auditioning new speakers, last December. It was not something that I thought I needed until I heard it.
So far, I love the sound and function of this piece of equipment. No listening fatigue, and I sit for hours each evening exploring new (and old) music.
I purchased Tidal and Qobuz subscriptions, and use these through the Linn Kazoo app. It's all ridiculously easy. I do wish the Kazoo app had a more Tidal-like interface.  
Well, I don't know if this helps. $7000 is not trivial. I am relieved that my wife has never asked me how much I paid. That would create a moral dilemma that I am not sure I am mature enough to navigate.
It’s an intriguing unit - I think particularly well designed.  As noted earlier, I’m skeptical it’s an upgrade for me all around - I doubt it’s a better amp or preamp.  But, I can easily believe it’s a better streamer than I have, and perhaps a better DAC.  And, the design is beautiful so I’m sure it’s enjoyable to work with. Good to hear it’s also non-fatiguing to listen to.  I’m still waiting to hear from my dealer (200 miles away) if I can do a home demo.  That’s really how I want to try to experience the unit.  Home demos are not something they normally do, but it seems to me it’s the only fair way to evaluate the piece.  With respect to the app, I think I’d do Roon as an overlay.

If I get it, my wife will know what I’ve paid as she pays all the bills...

Cheers,
mgrif
I have a Selekt DSM.  I've upgraded the DAC in it and added a pre-module so have it paired with an Audio Research VT80SE power amp. and my speakers are Wilson Sophia 3's and I'm using Transparent Audio cables to connect it all.

I couldn't be happier with the DSM.  It looks great and is easy to use.  Most importantly it sounds fantastic.  As another poster stated it is non-fatiguing to listen to.  I'd say that it's very musical.   The Wilson's are a large pair of speakers and to get the best sound and imaging they were sticking out in the room a bit more than I liked.  Had my dealer come over and set up the space op.  It's really a trip - I've the speakers back closer to the wall and with the space optimization on you wouldn't know that they were not in their optimal spot in the room.

I did use the power amp in the DSM for some time and while it is a great little amp I am far happier with the addition of the AR VT80SE.  It took a great sounding system and made it even more musical.  The depth and width of the soundstage is even larger now.  

Overall I couldn't be happier with the DSM.  It's very musical and presents a great soundstage.  Love the upgrade options as it allows you to grown the system at your own pace, it is easy to use and the space op is a gem.  I'd debated switching over to dCS but the lack of space op put that on the back burner.