Enjoy your quarantine listening while you can


It may not last for as long as we thought. HCQ has cured 100% of China virus in a top study, and Trump is expediting FDA approval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXWKAVNSvE

Skip to 2:13 for the report.
millercarbon
This seems like more misinformation.
This quote fills me with very little confidence.

"Though the paper is brief, John Lednicky, a professor at the University of Florida’s Emerging Pathogens Institute, found its results intriguing. “It’s interesting in that it really lacks a lot of details but, nevertheless, if you look at the data as presented, at least in vitro, it seems like chloroquine can be used as an early-stage drug,” "

From the Summary:

Recent guidelines from South Korea and China report that chloroquine is an effective antiviral therapeutic treatment against Coronavirus Disease 2019.  Use of chloroquine (tablets) is showing favorable outcomes in humans infected with Coronavirus including faster time to recovery and shorter hospital stay.  US CDC research shows that chloroquine also has strong potential as a prophylactic (preventative) measure against coronavirus in the lab, while we wait for a vaccine to be developed.  Chloroquine is an inexpensive, globally available drug that has been in widespread human use since 1945 against malaria, autoimmune and various other conditions.   


We report. You decide.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3Zsi...
Thanks anyway. I’ll take my chances.

“Chloroquine is a prescription drug. It can have side effects and has contraindications. One often cited side effect is chloroquine retinopathy, which can result in permanent vision loss after high cumulative doses of chloroquine. However, retinal damage is extremely rare in patients with a total dosage under 400g (dosage level only reached after years of treatment). Medical professionals must be consulted before use of chloroquine.”
Way too early to get excited over this one and to claim "100% cure rate" is ridiculous. Maybe I missed it but show me the double blinded controlled study in humans that demonstrates improvement in clinical outcomes, let alone cure rates.
More breaking news.....Busto Hernandez, a well known medical researcher in Mexico City, has found that headphones played at 122dB or higher, killed all the COVID-19 in the endolymphatic system.  That's right, a 100% cure rate.  The main side effects were tinnitus and profound hearing loss.
I heard about this last night some guy on cable news claimed a 100% cure rate. Sounded suspect to me. If this was really true it would be all over the news. So where is it? 
One wonders if Coronavirus is immune to Taylor Swift. 
I don't know about 100% cure rate but they are using these drugs and they have shown to be effective in treating symptoms of Covid-19. These are limited and preliminary results but anything they can use and expedite in a safe manner would be welcome news. 
Breaking gnus 🐃 🐃 🐃

Early Coronavirus Drug Trials Yield Mixed Results


https://apple.news/AtrOTMpHJSuCarZtWOwfQfg
Enjoy the quarantine are you joking!!!
There is just so much misinformation here. It would be truly amusing were this matter not so serious and tragic.
I think you will find China has reduced it's virus infection rate by other means...
Likely more a result of near total house arrest and a culture that actually follows and obeys orders.
Right, just like we all do here in the USA.
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"If this was really true it would be all over the news. So where is it?"
On an audiophile website forum. Where else?
Being quarantined with ebm. Upside: A great stereo to enjoy. Downside: Being quarantined with ebm. JUST KIDDING!!! We always enjoy your comments!
On an audiophile website forum. Where else?
Well of course Glupson, I mean where else actually counts! 😇😇

Remember GK famous sayings.
Breaking Gnus!
When the U of M  and Mayo Clinic work together , which they usually do, you
have the biggest medical canon the USA has !
Since testing is all hosed up they’re investigating miracles now. 
uberwaltz ...

 
  • "I think you will find China has reduced its virus infection rate by other means... Likely more a result of near-total house arrest and a culture that actually follows and obeys orders."  
Yes, a 100% cure rate if you "disappear" doctors, and expel foreign journalists who report otherwise.

Frank
Yes, a 100% cure rate if you "disappear" doctors, and expel foreign journalists who report otherwise.

I agree that Chinese Democracy leaves a lot to be desired. It used to be much better.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Democracy

There is that too Frank.....

But I do not subscribe to any miracle cure theory also.
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China is , pure and simple , a Capitalist Dictatorship .
Hold on  Schubert.
You are making a big assumption right there.
You think Katie was BORN?

I thought he was sent straight here from another dimension just to torment us.
The result of a mad experiment gone seriously wrong and then cast out before it could do any serious harm.

😉😉😉😉
I just looked up angry old fart in the dictionary. There was a picture of Schubert. 😡 Then there are the mildly retarded Floridians on their eternal Spring Break. 🏄‍♀️
You can't believe anything from reality tv! 
Oi GK!

I resemble that remark!
Dr. Dump is an idiot.

That DOES appear promising based on early reporting on experience to date in other countries but let’s listen to what real experts here have to say, unlike glory seeking, self-serving Dr. Dump.
My neighbor who was the head of the Shuttle propulsion system once told me always support your boss. My boss once told me, it’s a love-in, referring to the project, both government and contractors. Things would generally work a lot smoother if people would dispense with all the rancor and personal attacks. I’m referring to the whole Coronavirus task force, I.e., everybody.
Yes but neither should people soft step around issues involving life or death.
mapman
Yes but neither should people soft step around issues involving life or death.

>>>>Huh? What are you talking about? Nobody is soft stepping around anything. Far from it. You can go back to sleep again. 
Chloroquine is used for decade in malaria cases without great negative effects.... This is a well know totally CHEAP costless drugs that can help greatly….You are right millercarbon it is good news...The result about chloroquine Chinese study were published In "Nature" not Reader Digest...

But the Chinese takes draconian measure to contain the disease with success after 3 months... I think this measure are necessary if we dont want to go the Italy road...

If you want to know how bad it is listen to a New-York doctor on the frontline :
https://dnyuz.com/2020/03/19/a-new-york-doctors-coronavirus-warning-the-sky-is-falling/

«Alarmist is not a word anyone has ever used to describe me before. I’m a board-certified surgeon and critical care specialist... »
"...if we dont want to go the Italy road..."
All roads lead to Rome. It has always been like that.
I am not sure I want to be crucified on the side of this road.... :)
If you want to know how bad it is listen to a New-York doctor on the frontline :
I just hope someone wrote that for her.
Chloroquine has been around for quite some time and it works well in a petri dish but no human trials have been done to see what benefits can be had with this virus. 

I read where it's not good in large amounts as it severely impacts the eyes and can lead to blindness (hydroxychloroquine retinopathy, often referred to as bulls-eye maculopathy)

After my cataract surgery, I'll pass.

All the best,
Nonoise
I'm glad I came to Audiogon for my medical sciences news relating to the pandemic..................

What fuse sounds best again?
"What fuse sounds best again?"
The beeswax one. Placed in tea and with added lemon fights viruses.
nonoise this drug is used for decades without great negative effect....The side negative effect comes from too much or in exceptional medical case...One of the cheapest and safest drug....

Chloroquine was discovered in 1934 by Hans Andersag.[4][5] It is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines, the safest and most effective medicines needed in a health system.[6] It is available as a generic medication.[1] The wholesale cost in the developing world is about US$0.04.[7] In the United States, it costs about US$5.30 per dose.
wiki quote
Chuck, thanks for the posting.
Larry
from CNN today. Cant believe people are jumping to conclusions.

When asked about chloroquine last month, Dr. Janet Diaz of the World Health Organization said "there is no proof that that is an effective treatment at this time. We recommend that therapeutics be tested under ethically approved clinical trials to show efficacy and safety." At the time, she said the drugs that were being prioritized by WHO’s research and development efforts were antivirals, a separate type of drug that includes remdesivir, which is also the focus of clinical trials in China and the US.

I also heard two doctors interviewed make the same comments saying it's too early to say and the study wasn't conclusive.
This quarantine will be very sad.... I walk few hours ago, and I listen a young man saying to his friend that he loose his job driving truck...

I remember my anxiety looking for a job in the recession petroleum years around 78-80...It was a piece of cake compared to now.... I pity the young...And the old that will wait to be saved ….
Chloroquine will be of no profit at all for the pharma empire... Do you know how to read between the lines and inform yourself?

This chloroquine is already conclusively known for 80 years …. And proved on the frontline to be useful.... where was the frontline of this disease? in China...

By the way in a week even the most dreaming guy anywhere in north america will know that waiting for other costly remedies will be foolish....There is NO TIME... Chloroquine cost 4 cent ….Read Wikipedia....
This disease growth diffusion is exponential do you know what this means? 


You have still not learned what flattening the curve means, grasshopper. Why do you think everyone is cooling his heels at home and everything is shut down? Hel-loo!
The French did a small clinical study using hydroxychoroquine and azithromycin on 20 people and found it held promise and further testing should be done.
geoffkait,

Any news about my masks and face shields from the future?