Electrician's advice wanted: safely lifting ground


Hi all,

I've got a ground loop in my system between the preamp and multiple amps. The cheater plug experiment on the amp power cords not only solves the hum but also lowers the noise floor a bit more. So I would like to do this correctly in a safer, more permanent way.

Bringing all of the power cords in the system to one socket helped also but isn't as quiet as with the grounds lifted.

Can I change the circuit breaker to a GFIC and then tie ground to neutral at the wall socket so that there are no adapters involved? If this isn't the way to go please advise on what is. Even if I don't do this myself I'd like to know so that I can talk with an electrician.

Thanks
dan_ed

Showing 1 response by linyanti

I was born in the 1950's (in the US) and I have many exciting memories of plugging in those loose cords for waffle irons, etc and seeing the insulation blow off the cord in blazing red glory. Those were the days! Space heaters that would set the newspaper on fire. Life used to be exciting.

Speaking of the US and probably for the rest of the world, electrical devices have gotten very wimpy. My main complaint is that 12 volts will not kill anyone so most computer stuff has a transformer brick so the manufacturer can kind of do what he wants to mess things up.

But, there are also now "polarizing" plugs and "grounding" plugs. There were not many vacuum cleaners with ground plugs made in the 1970's. And they consume lots of juice.

The big danger is that there are certain devices like hot plates that are definitely polarized so that they can look like they are off but are still electrified. These are a very big shock hazard and polarizing plugs are necessary.

What has led the massive use of grounding plugs in the past two decades is that there may be a chance that the house has been wired incorrectly and that the polarizing plug will not have the correct hot, neutral configuration.

Consequently, if your house is properly wired the grounding plug has virtually no benefit.

But that being said, I play Devil's Advocate but follow the rules in the end.

For US and Canada the Ebtech HumX is a way to isolate the ground and still follow electrical code.

The trick is that these ground lines can get in all sorts of ways. Through coaxial cable for television (these require grounding at the house drop) and unbalanced interconnect lines.

I do have a question and that is whether RJ-45 (ethernet cable) introduces a ground loop? That is becoming a new possible threat as are HDMI and DVI cables.