Elac Debut Reference


They were to be available in November and here it's December. Are they just a sick prank to get the feel for the interest in them? I know they've been set up at shows. No word from Elac as to what their problem is.
harley52
Elac seems to do this routinely - the Carina speakers were several months later than Elac stated...

It is perplexing; I don’t see what Elac would have to gain by exaggerating the timeline.  This is messing up my holiday shopping and becoming annoying.
I just received a catalog from Audio Advisor that showed these speakers for sale. However, they are not yet on the AA website (as of Dec. 12).  I don't know the lead time for printing the catalog, but obviously AA were expecting to have them by now.  Maybe some kind of delay in the manufacturing or supply chain?
dinosore
I just received a catalog from Audio Advisor that showed these speakers for sale. However, they are not yet on the AA website (as of Dec. 12). I don't know the lead time for printing the catalog, but obviously AA were expecting to have them by now.
Do you know for certain that the product is not in stock? Just because it is not on the website doesn't mean it is not in stock.
Called AA and they have a couple pr. of bookshelves and floor standers. Their price was $100 over on both. I don't want anything that bad if it's priced over retail. But, they tend to over price on a lot of gear.
I picked up the new bookshelf for a Xmas pairing with a PS Audio Sprout in my kids bedroom.  Very nice looking & sounding....

Grabbed the small floorstanders for myself in a large room.  Break in about 3 days and they match real well w/a 6L6 40wpc tube amp and a Yamaha A-S2000.  Both r very satisfying.  Well worth the asking prices.
Great Mids/lowermids and a nicely integrated wide dispersion with the waveguide tweeter.  Great speakers & not just ‘4 the money’.  I think many would find these very rewarding over the long haul and at the very least make one reconsider their audio priorities...  oh, I got the white ones, they look fab n room!
TrueAudiophile.com has the bookshelf for $500 now, while AudioAdvisor wants $600. T.A. seems to be MSRP across the board, no big deals, but not taking advantage either.
That seems a fun channel with a sound perspective.  I’ve spent my time with the small floorstanders & they have such a nice flat frequency response, react well to a bit of power and play all types a music well.  These guys and a couple of subs would seem an easy match.  They have an openness with more room to hear into the separate vocals better than many other speakers w/only a single midrange driver.  They r a mature design and the above review notes them as jumping off points for diminishing returns.  Anybody else pick these up yet?  I’m enjoying mine...
The speakers present in such a well balanced, even handed way, they match really well with the newer Yamaha amps that have the same, natural, neutral, open tone with no overemphasis in any frequency band. When u turn up the volume u just get more presence, more openness, they seem to just ‘get out of the way’.  
If your recoding is say ‘audiophile’ grade, say a nice Dianna Krall recording, you get a sumptuous, tasty treat, that draws u in.  If it’s some not as well recorded, but great sung, well written, nicely played swinging music u picked up on a ski road trip & seeing the band live in the local saloon, the music brings u right back to why u bought the thing in the first place,  Fun!  Like a King Cardinal cd I played thru a half dozen times a few nites ago.  
The tweeter has a nice wide dispersion, the right amount of ‘bite & extension’, never harsh and importantly is at the perfect height for a seated listener.  They seem very responsive to cables and upstream digital/analog feeds. I wish I had a couple subs around here, they don’t try to ‘do to much’ so there don’t seem to be any room interaction problems, no bloat or overhang, just speed and resolution. This is a 3 way that crosses over at 90k & 2200k, so the bass that is available from the two 5.25 lower drivers is fast and taught, if not quite as substantial as a couple of 8” or such, yet the whole seems woven more of a single cloth, voiced as a whole.  The top mid, being the same driver as the two lower units u really don’t hear any ‘handoff’, nor any port noise...
I just ordered a pair of the ELAC DBR-62 in black with the walnut from Audio Advice, a pair of Polk LSiM703 in Mt. Vernon Cherry from Adorama, and a pair of the Triangle Borea BR03 in black ash(also from Adorama but they're on backorder). Whichever speakers sound the best in my listening room and on my gear are the ones that I'll keep. 
I just ordered a pair of the ELAC DBR-62 in black with the walnut from Audio Advice, a pair of Polk LSiM703 in Mt. Vernon Cherry from Adorama, and a pair of the Triangle Borea BR03 in black ash...
3 very different approaches to speaker design on those, but all are speakers I'm considering for my secondary system. The Polks seem to be a lot of bang for the buck at their current discount. But speaker technology has changed a lot in the last few years, so it's possible a "budget" speaker will easily sound better. But can't come close to the Polk's fit & finish. I'll be interested in your take on all of them. I imagine the size of your room will come into play with these.
I'd like to listen to the polks, my biggest concern would be that ring tweeter. Elac seems to be on a roll, and might be better for my purposes in a more multi-tasking environment (no sweet spot). I've really not heard a Jones design that disagreed with me. The Triangles are a wild card.

Keep us posted!
Ok let me give this a bump.  Something unique, I believe, about the small Reference floorstanders, is that each box has three port, two circular, in back, and the floor slot n front.  After listening to these, and finding them helpful in fine tuning my system, I wondered why?  After all, they’re relatively inexpensive.  I’ve other speakers, classic ADS 880’s, stand mounts ProAc 1sc, Kef ls50s, another pr. small floorstanders, Castle Conway III’s, and Daedalus DA-1s.  The boxes look very nice but r built to a price point.  The driver’s are nice carbon fiber units in a 3 way config, the tweeter a nice wave guide, the crossover I tried but couldn’t get to, it must be up, mid box.  Yet the things r spacious and neutral in a way some others r not.  I would think, a more expensive speaker, with better boxes, parts, pieces,ect... would be where many would want to end up.  
I suspect, those three ports allow these units to be so neutral in presentation.  A nice value, and well thought out by Mr. Jones...
They sound marvelous with 40wpc tubes or 90wpc ss.  There’s no midbase hump, but if your pre has tone controls, they work as u wold want.  If u have balanced components, they nicely show its benefits.  They show cable differences really quite dramatically.  They show the nuance of a good phono pre’s minute adjustments.  I’ve a EAT Petite and a Bob’s Sky SUT, w/VPI Traveler & Dynavector 20x2L.  I’ve settled upon Audio Envy interconnects & use a Benchmarck Dac3 feed by a Yamaha A-S2000 cd, the Benchmark balanced out into a Yamaha A-S2000, pre outs to a Mystere PA-11 with some nice new old stock 6sn7/el34’s.
The Elacs have also shown me I’d give up a tad of resolution for a flatter eq curve.  McCoy Tyners Fly Like the Wind,  Grants First Stand, GERRY Beckleys Five Mile Road, r all well rendered.  Something about the amp, the box, the room... no distracting pops or ticks, music, an honest speaker.  Probably too boring for most...