So no one has heard this speaker?
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Yes, we are on the list to receive them. It will mated with the Simaudio Evo's in our main room. :-)
I kind of misstated my point...The reason why I say those on this forum would not be interested in these is because those on this board are interested in used products. This being a brand new speaker, it wouldn't be available on the used market yet.
I have not heard or seen in person yet. But, I'm waiting patiently.
...The reason why I say those on this forum would not be interested in these is because those on this board are interested in used products. This being a brand new speaker, it wouldn't be available on the used market yet.
I disagree with that 100%. Especially in the forums, used or not, people will be interested. In addition, if there is a new pair on the shelf somewhere, I can just about guarantee that someone is trying to sell their pair as used.
I heard the Sapphire at my local dealer (Alternative Audio in Dundas, Ontario) a few weeks ago. While it was by no means an extensive demo, it was one of the finest setups I have heard in their big room. Amp was the Sim Audio W8 Evolution and a VTL 7.5 pre.
I have heard Revel Studios, Audio Physic Avanti, Elac's best and the Dynaudio Confidence c4. Of these, I preferred the Sapphire and the C4. And the finish on the Sapphire is outstanding. The Sapphire and the C4 are close and I would need to spend some time with them to determine how they differ.
I would love to hear them in my system but as I am not in the market right now, I won't waste my dealer's time.
I hope this is helpful.
I am a reviewer, so you can take my comments with a grain of salt if you wish.
I heard both the Sapphire and the Aventis Phobos two weeks ago at a dealer. The rig, aside from speakers, was:
T+A cdp, T+A tube pre, Transparent Opus MM (top of the line at $30k) speaker cables, Clayton Audio monos.
With that equipment, in that setting, the Sapphire was bright and very forward sounding. The Phobos was more tempered in that respect. Both use a marginally sized midrange, which contributed to the more "intense" sound as opposed to a relaxed or laid back sound, in my opinion. For some time I had used the Chapman Audio T-77, which has twin 5" midrange, and even those I felt had too much bite. I lean toward a larger mid, such as a 6.5-7" mid to remove that stridency. Tonally, I preferred the Saphhire, but not at the expense of the more stringent treble. They both had excellent clarity and crispness, but the low end suffered.
Regarding bass, neither one had low end that I would characterize as overwhelming for a $16k speaker. The Phobos was fairly weak in this respect, and the Sapphire was more respectable. The aesthetics of both were outstanding, but both only sounded more balanced and full range when the accompanying REL sub was in the system. I turned the REL sub off when listening to both, and in both cases the bottom dropped out completely, and the midrange and treble brightness was more pronounced.
I have no doubt that with different equipment and in my listening room I could address much of these issues. I believe that I could find superb sound with much different electronics and cables, but those looking for a laid back, mellow presenation should use caution in approaching them.