Does a Tube Dac make sense?



I’m  in the market for a dac since I bought a Musical Paradise MP701MKII Tube Preamp few months back, does it make sense to buy a tube dac? The seller Garry is suggesting to get the Musical Paradise MP D2 MKIII which is a tube dac with a AK4490 but can be upgraded to AK4499 but I’m leaning towards the RME ADI2 which is almost the same price as the MP tube dac. I’m finding it hard to justify a $1k dac but I have read a lot of forums that suggests the RME or the SMSL M400 and Denafrips Ares II but I’m a sucker for vu meters and spectrum analyzers but if the MP tube dac is a good match for my MP tube preamp I’m willing to give it a go.
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No, we don’t say the same thing. Accuracy is a state of something relating how close it is to being precise. Measurement and auditioning is a process, not a state.
"accuracy by the numbers" is related to a process .... This is common sense and go without saying it...

"accuracy by the ears" is related to the process of human hearing....This is common sense and go without saying it...

My use of the word "accuracy" were in the context of a war between "subjectivist" and objectivist" the word was refering to a confusion between what is accurate in the measuring tool process and what is selected to be accurate like in pitch timbre perception and evaluation by and for the ears....

There is no electronic process known to man that measures the accuracy of music.
Twisting my post because you are more "snippy" than me wont erase reality...

And reality is this: Any engineer must CORRELATE the measure by numbers with what is another "measure" the way his ears judge pitch accuracy for example in his design test....

Then i will write more clearly what you just errenously wrote, twisting in your way true engineering endeavour:

If " there is no electronic process that measure the accuracy of music" there is an enginering process that CORRELATED measures by tool and measures or EVALUATION of music( pitch, timbre, colors,dynamics etc) for the human ears...

This engineering historical process of CORRELATION improvement give us hi-fi.....And some new tools ....

Then "opposing" measure by the numbers and measure by the ears is stupidity, distinguishing them without reducing any of them to the other and "correlating" them is wiser....

Reality is not black or white, subjectivist against objectivist or the opposite...

I apologize for being "snippy" anyway.... Perhaps i was in my tone....

My best to you ....

I wish only the best for you for all eternity....

I hope this is clearer...
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Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
This is right....

My deepest regards....
I respectfully disagree
Before disagreeing read my post 2 times if necessary for your understanding...

I say the same thing but more clearly than just stating the obvious like you just did...

Then it is unnecessary to create disagrements where there is none...




There exist 2 definitions of "accuracy" one is exactitude by numbers the other is  righteousness for the ears...

There exist only one definition of  musicality then and 2 of accuracy...

I will pick the definition of accuracy corresponding with the concept of musicality...

 Anything else is engineer business dealing with pieces of a system....

But we listen and tweak the WHOLE system not the parts separately...
This true signals/coloration debate is very simplistic....

Remind me of the tube/S.S. debate...

Remind me of the vinyl/dac debate...

Remind me of the evolution/ design debate...

Remind me of the male/female superiority debate...

When we debate it is very important to distinguish external duality and internal polarity...
and most of the times there is so much aspects to the problem that it is impossible to generalyse from one perspective only...


If we do not take into account all distinctions, we will oppose complementary factors, elements, and we will confuse our taste and bias with reality....

Then a tube dac could make sense in some specific case not in other.... Simple....
kudos to you @charles1dad 
I am behind this remark also...

 My best to the two of you....