Do You Care About AESTHETICS? What Are Your Gear/Listening Room Preferences?...


Just wondering about how much people care about the aesthetics related to this hobby.

To what degree do you care, or not, about a speaker looks, an amp, etc? Is it only about the sound, or do you appreciate or require your gear to be attractive to your eye as well?

And more generally, how much do you care about the aesthetics of your listening space?

My answer to both is: I care quite a bit about the look both of my gear and my listening room.

I’ll elaborate on my preferences first.

I just love a beautiful looking piece of gear, especially speakers. I generally prefer a wood finish, and for instance some of the Tidal speaker finishes are drool-worthy to me - any speaker that has a gorgeous rich wood grain with an impeccable finish will stop me in my tracks, especially if it features a graceful or cool design. (I hate a wood finish that has blah color/grain//execution) . I’m also open to other non-wood-finish designs. I spend a fair amount of time on pinterest just looking at beautiful audio gear.  Though for me my current Thiel 2.7 speakers, in one of my favorite wood finishes - ebony - are almost ideal. Sleek, contemporary, beautiful without being garish and...very important....SPEAKER GRILLS!

This is where I depart from many of my audiophile brethren who seem to want to see every bit of technology they paid for, including all the drivers. Although some drivers can be beautiful...most are not (IMO) and so often the screws around the drivers strike me as "industrial" with an unfinished look. The kind of thing you’d never get away with in most other high quality products.

I also don’t like staring at speaker drivers because, for me, it impedes the illusion of soundstaging/imaging/speakers disappearing. If I am seeing the woofer and tweeter right in front of me while the music is playing, I can’t help but perceive them as part of the experience, so I’m conscious of the midrange coming from THAT driver and the highs coming from THOSE tweeters right there! Once the drivers are covered in a nice grill, I don’t perceive the music as coming out of the speakers (if they "disappear" well to begin with).

That general aesthetic carries to the rest of the gear and room. I certainly love some audio jewlery and I’m a tube fan. But ultimately I much prefer a clean, uncluttered visual environment for listening to music (and watching movies). So my amplification/source gear for both my 2 channel and home theater surround speakers is in a separate room down the hall a bit. (If I had to have them in my room, I’d still want to orient them out of my sight when listening to music).

So essentially all I have on view in my listening room is my stereo speakers, and some discretely hidden home theater surround speakers.

Having the preferences I do, I can often find myself somewhat aghast at set ups in which the owner clearly doesn’t care about aesthetics at all "who cares how anything looks? It’s all about the sound!" This can go from set ups (that I’ve also visited) that are the audiophile version of a frat boy’s first apartment, where you think "Ok, I know why you live alone." Wires strung everywhere, speaker grills lying around the floor, just...tons of crap everywhere. I just couldn’t relax in that type of environment.

Then there’s the more studious version, in which the owner clearly cares about aesthetics....they just have a different sense than I do. For instance, those set ups that featuring speakers with a billion exposed drivers, with giant subwoofers (woofers exposed of course) beside each speaker, every bit of amp/source equipment around the speakers, cables prominently displayed...all that stuff to me is the equivalent of being overwhelmed by the technology to a practically intimidating degree.

I like the technology, and I am definitely willing to pay more when I can for a more beautiful, higher class looking product. Speakers especially because they are unavoidable pieces of permanent furnitur, and they can be beautifully crafted. I also love any other gear that’s beautiful and I can always get the aesthetic pleasure of their being in my rack. But I prefer all that to take the back seat to my concentrating on music, hence the clean look for my room. (Which is actually a huge challenge for me to pull off, since I’ve had to integrate both my 2 channel system and home theater system in the same room).

So with my own likes and dislikes laid bare, I’d love to hear others chime in on the same subjects.

Cheers,

Prof






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@douglas_schroeder

"I have found no direct correlation between appearance/aesthetics and sound quality. "

That would seem pretty obvious from the experience of most audiophiles, wouldn’t it?

At least in a wider sense, it’s obvious someone can design excellent sounding speakers with a shoddy look, and visa-versa.  We've all experienced this.

The industrial look of the typical prototype in the factor will be crap, but will sound essentially the same as the final, beautiful looking production models.

I’ve had to send away speakers whose looks I was in love with...but they just didn’t sound how I’d hoped.

On the other hand, it is a fact that the looks of a speaker can influence the perception of sound (e.g. tests that show a more expensive looking speaker is rated higher in sound quality in sighted tests, but not in blind tests).

My current speakers certainly had to sound right to me, but I wouldn’t doubt that the fact I like their looks so much also influences my experience to some degree.




Hi douglas,

I agree that a highly aesthetic product will tend to come with high build quality (though...even that, depending on interpretation...may be something of a tautology).

I simply meant to point out that most audiophiles in this forum would be quite aware of the divide between aesthetics and sound quality.


As in most areas of consumer products aesthetics and performance are expected to go hand in hand.


Sure. But the audiophile community - such as those in this forum - generally comprises people very picky about sound quality. It’s long been obvious, and often a point of contention by audiophiles, that mere good looks
don’t provide good sound quality. That is after all why audiophiles tend to disparage nice looking, life-style products - e.g. bose, beats headphones etc and others - as style over sound quality.

Only use of hundreds of audio components has revealed what I consider a significant departure from the aesthetics and performance linkage.


Again...it hardly takes experience with hundreds of audio components to notice the disparity between looks and performance. It’s been noticed by most audiophiles for a long time. It was quickly obvious to me when I got heavily into high end audio in the 90’s, and my long experience since with many products wan’t necessary to augment that conclusion. It’s true now the same way it was true when I first got into this hobby.

And most audiophiles - again of the type that inhabit discussions like these - have had long experience hearing lots of different equipment - from their own, friends, at audio shows, dealers, etc. We all have "boy this looks nicely made" but "wow that was disappointing sound" experiences.

I can’t imagine - and I see no evidence - that anyone in this thread is under the misapprehension that good looks entails good sound. Whether we are talking speakers or any other gear.


I was just perusing the classifieds here and saw some speaker photos that really re-enforces my distaste for visible screws on speakers.

For instance there is  pair of YG Acoustics Carmel speakers.  Apparently a great sounding speaker and generally a nice enough design to my eye.
But all those screw heads around the driver, and the tops of the speaker!
To me it's such a downgrade, given a cheap unfinished -made-in-shop look, or like something put together from IKEA.  Yuck!

Somehow furniture manufactures (and manufacturers of other components) manage to discretely hide unsightly screws in their design - as they add nothing nice aesthetically and only detract.  I don't know why more speaker manufacturers can't do this, or don't bother.

Maybe more audiophiles like the look of bare screw heads than I'm aware of?


douglas,

Yes I understand the utility of exposed screws.  But still some manufacturers seem to care about the fact they are not aesthetically nice to look at.  Monitor Audio, for instance (as one that comes to mind) manages to hide the screws.  Others manage to make them very discrete - e.g. inset black-on-black.

The worst to me are those where the manufacturer just doesn't give a toss - like using cheap looking silver screw-heads sticking out garishly on a black speaker front.

This is one reason why I very much favor speaker grills to hide all of that.  And especially speakers that have been designed/voiced with speaker grills in mind.  A great example being the Thiel 2.7/3.7 speakers I own which were designed for having the speaker grills on, hence the speaker grills are nicely inset and form a perfectly fitted look, vs the after-the-fact look of many speaker grills that stick out, like the manufacturer has said "well if you really WANT to cover up our drivers, here's a cheesy grill to use."

Again...all this is of course a statement of my own aesthetic view.