Do we believe in Machina Dynamics?

Did this thread not come up to recently.

I wonder if there are people with personal agendas going here??

I don't think much more can be rehashed over again, and again, and again. I guess you get the point.

This is quite laughable. A product is not deemed good or snake oil on the basis of whether it can be measured by some science method or not. Products should be based solely on whether our ears like the product or not.

When you audition cables its the same thing. What do I prefer or better yet do my ears prefer. Theres no science in it.

Same is with tweaks. Everyone has the right to let their ears determine and not some scientific method. This is listening to audio so no need to complicate things. We don't need a science degree but just ears that hear. In fact, I would trust my ears then some science geeks with a white lab coats and pocket protectors. I learned long ago not to trust their judgements.

Figure this one with science. If my electric goes down hundreds of miles of cable eventually through cheap romax. Why does a $2000 dollar power cord make any difference in improving the sound which we all have come to the knowledge finally that power cords make a difference. Science would seem to tell me that the power cord wont help which is why there where so many na sayers who laughed at expensive power cords in the beginning.

Paul, I can understand you thoughts on it. In whole, Geoff has some of the most odd and unusual products out there which by default opens his products up to hammering on or in the very least, question marks.

I have not seen much else outside the audiogon world so I don't have as broad of an understanding how things are handled outside of this forum.

Geoff in some sense has become the poster child for audio geeks to poke fun at. I struggle with the tearing down and beating on the guy endlessly as if the mans not human.

I don't think an explanation of his products is not an unreasonable request and think it's where this whole frustration from audiophiles develops from which may be an area Geoff went wrong in.

Just my opinion!

I have learned two things and thats about it with this forum. Some audio guys will trust their ears and don't need science and others that have to have an explanation. Its fine either way and no need to hammer one or the other.

Two, there are a certain number of people who seem determined and get off on trashing Geoff Kait.

I asked the na sayers numerous times about the clock winning the BRutus award and having great reviews by solid sources. It was always ignored cause it shows that Kait does have some good products as there seems to be a wanting to tear him down by some..

I will give you guys that the phone thing sounds a little out there, but how can I trash it with out trying it. Many say the clocks science does not make sense but the Brutus award says different.

I don't know Geoff personally nor have I ever worked with him but, I see a desire to trash a mans reputation when I see it. I respect you to not try the products and think they may not work for you, but the blatant trashing of a man??????