Sounds risky. I'll stick with LP#9. It works great.
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Sounds great but risky, you must have very steady hands. I had read a while ago that jewelers use gin - yeah that's right, the delicious alcoholic beverage - to clean their diamonds. Apparently some ingredient in juniper makes an excellent cleaner. So on the small mirror I use for azimuth adjustment, I put a single drop of gin, and rest the stylus there for a few minutes, then brush it off. All my things are still in boxes so I do not have access to my better magnifiers, but at least I feel I've done something to clean my stylus. Does alcohol/gin dissolve glue (assuming glue was used to hold the diamond in place)? I'm suddenly worried. Any chemists out there? Perhaps someone with a magnifier could try this and report back on whether this is a placebo or not. It's certainly cheap, and an excuse to mix a cocktail (which makes it more expensive, however)!
Steady hands are certainly necessary, though not really much more so than when brushing with LP#9 or anything else.
The biggest benefit might be for users of cartridges with hollow cantilevers (ZYX and ?) whose manufacturers recommend against using any liquid. Their options have been limited to the ZeroDust, ExtremePhono or a matchbook striker. Now they have something that works much better.
I used an ExtremePhono for months. I thought my stylus was supposed to be yellowish, just an industrial grade diamond you know. Then I tried this thing. After just a few cleanings the stylus was as clear as the best diamond you ever saw. And it stays that way.
YMMV as always. I've got a couple extras made up Joe. I'll send you one with the Wally, if it ever gets completed!
I forgot to respond to your spirited suggestion! I don't know if all styli are glued to their cantilevers, but mine certainly is. I can clearly see cantilever, glue and diamond by reversing a 50mm or shorter lens for a 35mm camera and looking through it.
In three months of steady use of the Mr. Clean Magic thingie, the glue around the top of my stylus has not been damaged.
As far as glue and alchohol interacting, someone told me it's okay as long as you drink one and sniff the other.
YMM definitely V.
I've tried Doug's stylus cleaning system, and it works very well. You have to be careful, but he has already warned about that, and you have to be careful any way you clean a stylus.
I don't think that Doug is trying to change anyone's way of doing things. He is just letting people know of a very useful method that he has found, and you can try if you want.
I think he is performing a good service to the membership, by posting good tweaks he's discovered.
Thanks Doug, I tried it today, and based on what I see under magnification and hear, it works! I tried mounting the eraser on a quarter with some blu-tak type putty, and I lower the stylus in after lying the quarter/eraser on the platter. Seems easier on the nerve vs. lifting up to the cart. Especially since my Spacearm has no locking mechanism.
Between this tweak and the AIVS fluids, it's been a great couple of months for getting more music out of my vinyl. Cheers,
Spencer, just noticed your post. Glad you found Mr. Clean as effective as we have. Next month will mark one year of cleaning our styli exclusively with a dry stylus brush and the Magic Eraser. Nothing but continued good results to report from here. Someone on VA also suggested the method you're using. It makes good sense. Just don't let the Magic Eraser touch your vinyl, it's too abrasive.
I enjoyed Jes45's "3 to 1 in favor of LP #9" post above. At that time I was the only person on earth who'd actually tried both LP #9 and Mr. Clean, so his election results seem suspicious. I believe Jes45 counted three unregistered voters. He may be an ex-Soviet Ukrainian bureaucrat!
I was over at Spencer's on New Year's day to listen to some music, and he sent me home with the Magic Eraser/Blu Tack/Quarter stylus cleaner. Works really well! thanks for the tip. I like it better than the Extreme Phono container-o-goo that keeps oozing out all over the place.
I like the efficacy of the Extreme Phono cleaner used properly, but a better storage/delivery container needs to be devised.
Ex-soviet? Nope, not me Doug. I have since registured and have tried your dry cleaner (works great), but I still follow up with LP#9 to rinse away any residue that the Magic eraser might leave behind. Why not? I'm still have an almost new bottle and I know it is safe.
And, I wouldn't worry too much about the Phonogram list, they probably won't accept your methods or mine.
Jes45, removing any residue is certainly important, critical even. If the Magic Eraser compound is as microscopically abrasive as Paul says you don't want any left on the stylus.
We dry brush, since our cartridge maker warns against alchohol based cleaners. Wet cleaning would work too but I wonder if a final dunk in the ExtremePhone goo wouldn't work best? Mr. Clean to loosen the dirt and the goo to remove it. That almost sounds organized!
Count me in.
As a long time LP9 user, I have been satisfied with the product. But with all the magic and publicity this unique cleaning method has gotten I just had to try it ~
Well-- While I still use the LP9, I must say that I find the "Deacon-Clean" method now a part of my fastidious stylus cleaning ritual.
I must be doing something right because I have yet to see any debris or discoloration in the magic eraser after cleaning.
Happy Listening, and thanx Doug for the innovative idea--
I have used #9, in conjunction with a LAST stylus brush for quite some time and with satisfaction. I use two bottles, one for cleaning by putting a few drops on the LAST brush and one for "rinsing". I've even used it on quite a few styli of yore that I have been trying here and there. Before and after cleaning with the #9, I've inspected them under an old microscope I "acquired" when they built a new Chem-Bot building while I was in college. They all LOOKED pretty cruddy before, but spotless after. So, I guess it works as far as whatever can be "seen" is concerned.
I bought one of the Mr. Clean eraser that Doug suggests and tried that, too. I must say that I may not be steady enough of hand, keen of eyesight, or bold in confidence to use it on styli in the manner suggested. Reminds me of the old Linn “matchbook striker-type” paper that used to be around. Not sure I am that “stable” to do that these days! I like much better the idea of up/down as recently initiated. I will try that method with a #9 flush.
I shared your fear about the "toothpick" method, and my nervous caffeine-juiced likely "user errors", as the Tech crowd would say. The quarter as a base made it handy, and allows me to let the cueing lever do the tricky part. One note of caution for all trying this methodology:
MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PLATTER DOESN'T ACCIDENTLY GET BUMMPED! If the platter turns a bit while the stylus/cantilever is suspended into the Magic Eraser, you could do so serious damage. Hopefully, this is obvious to all, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to mention it specifically.
Doug, as to my free-spending ways, I'll just say that compared those suckers who bought Brilliant Pebbles, this $0.25 is not a bad investment! Cheers,
I'll be damned, it does work. I just tried the magic eraser last night. I could hear that my stylus needed to be cleaned (it's been a while) so instead of the trustly Extremephono solidstate goop, I tried the Magic Eraser. I watched it pull a very small dark piece of dirt right off of the tip on the first application. Everyone is right, you do need to be careful. This has got to be the new budget cleaning tweak of the year. Thanks Doug!
Here's a further tweak for Doug's excellent tweak. The brush can easily rotate while in your hand, especially if you're using a round toothpick. I thought a more solid handle would be good. I picked up a couple coffee stirrers at McDonalds. It has flats on both ends. Cut it and you have two handles per stirrer. I find the flat, wide (compared to a toothpick, at least) handle gives me better control than a round toothpick.
Thanks, Doug, for sharing this great idea with us.
Best regards to all,
Glad to see so many people are starting to enjoy the marvelous cleaning abilities of Paul's stylus cleaner discovery. Also glad to see these new and improved ideas for use, like glueing a piece on a coin for "handle-free" dunking and Paul Frumkin's flat-ended stirrer handles to keep the eraser from spinning. Community brains at work!