DIY LP cleaning IKEA find

Here's a great discovery for those of you who, like me, prefer to hand-wet-scrub your LP's with a velvet brush (I use the Disc Doctor's), maybe as a preliminary step to use of an LP cleaning machine.

It's long been a minor problem as to what to use for a suitable work-surface for this task. If you have a sturdy cleaning machine with a full 12" platter, you could use that. But if your machine vacuums from the underneath or cleans both sides at once, this won't apply. You can spread out newspaper or a towel, but that leads to lint contamination. What I used was a rubber mat made expressly for this purpose from the 70's, or you could just use an inexpensive spare rubber TT mat. This works OK, but if you're like me and you prefer to saturate the record surface with fluid to really float out loosened debris (I use cheap isopropyl alcohol/purified water, so this doesn't break the bank), the mat approach runs the risk of excess fluid migrating under the record and wetting the down-turned label. Plus, equally reaching all angles of the record surface with the brush is made easier if you rotate either the record or the mat, but that can be a little clumsy with this setup.

Now I've found a better approach. The good news is that it's cheap ($10) and works like a charm. The bad news is that you can only get these items by actually going to an IKEA store - they are not available online or through the catalog, I've checked. I know many of you won't live near an IKEA showroom though, so if demand exists I am willing help interested people out with this, just let me know.

My find consists of two separate items: the "IKEA/PS Underbar" child's seat cushion, and the "Snudda" lazy susan. The Underbar is a 12" wide, 3/4" thick disk made of EVA foam with an upper surface of spaced raised bumps about 1/2" in diameter and 1/2" apart. (Note that there are two surface-texture variations of this product: the one with the bumpy surface, and another one with raised, wavy, continuous broad lines instead; you want the discrete bumps, which can't conduct excess fluid along the underside of the record toward the label.) EVA is the lightweight, durable, cushioning foam material used for the midsoles of athletic shoes. It is highly hydrophobic ('beads' liquid) and seems unaffected by the usual mild solvents and detergents one would use for cleaning PVC.

You can link to a picture of this item here: IKEA/PS Underbar cushion (click on 'enlarge image' for a better view). As you can see, these are only $2.99 each and come in a variety of fun colors. I chose basic black (the colors are molded-in, not surface-applied), on the theory that this will best show any surface contamination indicative that the mat needs to be rinsed off. The ring-shaped cut-out for carrying or hanging that you see in the picture does not protrude above the plane of the raised bumps or in any way detract from the cushion's functionality in this application.

The Underbar was the first of these two items I spied in the store, and as I immediately thought when I saw it, you could just stop here and have a pretty good LP-cleaning work surface - one better than the dedicated (but long-discontinued) product I had been using. But continuing on through the showroom, I stumbled upon the other product that makes using the Underbar twice as good as it would be on its own.

The Snudda lazy susan is a kitchen accessory consisting of 16"-diameter upper and 7"-diameter lower concentric circular flats, each about 5/8" thick and made of a light-colored, tight-grained hardwood that looks like it may be birch, smoothly-finished and without stains or varnish that I can detect. The lower disk has a grippy rubber ring attached to its underside to positively locate it on your work table, while the upper disk is a plain, flat circle with a nicely rounded edge. The two platters are joined in the center by a very smoothly-rotating, heavy-duty, low-profile ball-bearing swivel of about a 2" diameter, and together they rise about 1 1/2" above your tabletop, or 2 1/4" with the mat in place. The whole lazy susan assembly is very sturdy and solid-feeling, so you can bear down on it without instability or fear of breakage, and it spins freely and easily with very little noise or play. Unfortunately, this item is not pictured on any IKEA website, but it looks very nice. It sells for only $6.99, less than you could home-make an equivalent for (just the swivel bearing alone is probably worth almost as much).

When I got these two items home from the store, my first intention was to somehow glue the centered mat to the top of the lazy susan. I might still decide to do this, but have learned that it is not really necessary. Although the mat is very lightweight, it is sufficiently grippy on its finely-ridged underside that you can clean LP's just by sitting it in the middle of the lazy susan turntable and going at it. This way, any fluid that gets between the two surfaces while you're working can be wiped away once you're done by simply lifting away the mat (this also aids in rinsing off the mat). If they were to be glued together, I think I'd want to use a silicone sealant to caulk around the mat's edges so fluid couldn't hide in between, trapped against the wooden surface of the lazy susan. Then I might even try to rig up some kind of central spindle with which to positively locate the record. Without going to this trouble though, expect that you will have to make the occasional small adjustment to keep the mat well-centered on the lazy susan.

The cleaning technique is simple. The record exactly covers the surface area of the 12" Underbar mat (there is a central bump on the mat which will show through the record's spindle-hole), and you're left with a 2" broad overhanging edge of the 16" Snudda turntable platter with which to grab onto using one hand. Apply your cleaning fluid to the record surface, and holding your brush lightly against the record surface in one position, angled-in slightly from the record's edge, gently spin the lazy susan platter around until your fluid has thoroughly coated the entire record surface, staying a bit away from the label. Then firmly grip one side of the platter to stop it spinning, while you scrub about 1/4 of the record's surface on the opposite side (as I'm right-handed, this means I'm holding the platter still on the left-hand side while I'm cleaning the record with my right hand 180 degrees opposite, for side-to-side stability). When that area of the record has been cleaned, simply let go with your gripping hand momentarily and use the brush against the record to rotate the whole assembly 90 degrees to the next cleaning position before grabbing on again. There is never any need to touch the record or mat with your hands while cleaning is this process, only your brush and the lazy susan turntable. As long as you're reasonably attentive to pressing straight down and making a concentric brushing motion, the mat will not slide around on the platter away from center while cleaning, and the record will not slide around on the mat even though there is no spindle. After you've finished one record side, you can then vacuum-clean that side immediately, but I recommend turning the record over and completing the other side in the same manner before proceeding further. The raised texture of the Underbar mat keeps things from getting messy and re-contaminating the record or wetting the labels, and waiting to vacuum or hand-dry until after you've wet-scrubbed both sides in succession prevents the mat from spot-wetting an already dried side during the middle of the procedure.

With this setup I am cleaning my new-used records better and faster than I ever have before, and feel more organized and in-control doing it while not having to be as concerned about fluid-damaging the labels. I realize this will not be for everybody, particularly those of you who already have a well-established cleaning routine that doesn't include hand-scrubbing. But if you're like me and frequently buy bunches of old records in various states of cleanliness ranging all the way down to pretty filthy, and have found that hand-washing is an indispensable adjunct to machine-cleaning or vacuuming for satisfactory results, I can't recommend this arrangement highly enough for the minimal investment involved (excluding brushes of course). If you're interested and live near an IKEA store, go look for yourself and you'll quickly intuit what I'm so enthusiastic about here. If you don't live anywhere near an IKEA but think you want to try this out, drop me a line and I'll be glad to assist you in acquiring your own Underbar + Snudda setup.

Happy record hunting and listening, Zaikesman.
Nice! I use a similar setup made from a 12" marble lazy susan, a 1/4" cork mat, and a cotter pin glued to the center to keep the record from sliding around. I use the DiscDoctor fluid and brushes. These work quite well for me, but they are more time consuming to use than I'd like. The spinning platform helps a lot, making record-scrubbing both less awkward and faster.

The only problem I have with my setup is the cork mat. The Underbar sounds like it would be a nice improvement to my cleaning station. Thanks for the tip!

Brent, you've testified to how much more efficient hand-cleaning can be utilizing this kind of setup. The 12" marble lazy susan certainly sounds nice, but if you go to IKEA for the Underbar mat, you might want to pick up the inexpensive Snudda lazy susan anyway, just for the 16" diameter that makes this task even easier by giving you a protruding edge to grab onto, enhancing control. I find it very interesting how we're seemingly in the same boat as far as having to improvise solutions to this fairly obvious need - you'd think that some of the companies dedicated to making LP-cleaning products would market some options to address this issue. However, I doubt any of them would charge only $10 if they did.
Thanks for the tip, Zaikesman. I use the Disc Doctor brushes followed by a vacuum using VPI HWP17. My cleaning "platform" consists of a 3/4" particle board cut into an 11-3/4" circle. I bought it precut at Home Depot for a dollar. I lay a clean face towel over the circle. After 3 or 4 records, I change the towel because it becomes too wet. After washing and rinsing the record using DD brushes, I mop up excess liquid with the rinse DD brush. Then, as Duane Goldman, Mr. Disc Doctor himself suggested as one possible way to dry the record, I wad up a bunch of Scott brand toilet tissue. The tissue mops up the remainder of the liquid.

Because there is some tiny lint left on the record, I do a final cleaning with the VPI using Record Research Super Vinyl Wash.

The DD brushes allow me to inspect and clean troublesome spots. The VPI brushes stay relatively very clean since the record is already very clean before reaching the VPI. The RR solution also uses an especially “hyper clean” distilled water in its formulation.

However, I like your PS Underbar mat idea with the Snudda lazy susan. Since I am going to Los Angeles next month, I think I will visit the IKEA store.

Thanks again for sharing!
Here's a "Snudda"
Cool idea.I use LAST with my VPI 16.5 but with the POwer Cleaner they make it would be better to use what you have mentioned.Just an extra tip Mike the head tech at VPI told me the home brew he had heard of and what I havce gotten good result from is dumping a pints worth of alcohol into an emety bottle with a funnel so you don't remove to much.Add pint of alchol into gal jug.Then ad 2-3 DROPS of clear dishcleaning lquid to the remainder in the Gal. of distilled water.Tehn ad two or three DROPS of Kodak Photoflow to mix.The Photoflow reduces surface tension in the water and with only two or three drops one should not be concerned with it's effects.I have used it for years and no problem.It's hard finding clear dishlquid since the "clear" carze has passed us by (rembver when eveything was availible in "clear"?) so I use Ivory since it has less additives/dyes than others.Finding Photflow is easy just go to an phot shop and they have it but you may be forced to spen $10 on a bottle which would be enough for 1000 gallons plus.After using this brew I go over LP once again with my vaccum machine to clean off cleaner.But up till now with the LAST applicator pads I would do everything on the machine.The LAST Power cleaner works wonders with gummy,sticky substances on LP's but I used to use the pads that came with the Alsop Orbital cleaner with either the LAST bnrushes or Alsop Orbital pads.Best would be first use hwat you've mentioned,then put on LP on machine and use LAST brushes and finally clean it for the final time with water and the Alsop Orbitrac's big pads (will last a long time since grime has been cleaned off.Very last step is to usde the LAST Preservative.Mike (again from VPI) say's he has folks bring Lp's to him at shows have used it every 30-40 plays and he told me he's heard LP's that have been treated and played 500 times sound like they have only been played half a dozen.That my obsessive regime but after first thurough cleaning to clean off dirty LP bought used or new ones to remove releasing compounds left after pressing on new one well it seems to work.Have alway wanted to try Disc Doctor but I spen so much on the Power Cleaner and Preservative from LAST I decided to use my own (or Mikes recipie) instead of buying LAST's cleaner or anybody elses.
Ronnie, thanks so much for linking the Snudda photo - why do we have to go to the Aussies for this, IKEA? Perhaps those of you from countries other than the US should also check your local IKEA websites to see whether either or both of these items is offered for internet sale where you are, unlike here. As can be seen, I guessed right about the wood variety but wrong about whether some kind of laquer was present (it must be a very fine coating, because it doesn't fill-in the larger crevices in the grain). Regardless, with my iso/H2O fluid I have not seen any degradation yet of the surface finish, so it might be polyester-based, and anyway fluid that goes down there will not wind up on the record.
Zaikesman, the rotating platform on my lazy susan rotates atop a smaller pedestal and is about 1" above the table top. So I grip the underside to spin it with my right hand, and scrub with my left (I'm a southpaw). In other respects, my technique is pretty much as you describe yours.

I don't know why there isn't a product like this. In lieu of one, though, this is pretty simple to DIY for cheap. It's certainly worth the trouble.

Amen to that.
Zaikesman, many thanks for taking the time to share your great idea. There have been those times when a record is just too "yucky" (Sesame Street speak) to immediately take its place on the VPI cleaning machine. My older method of hand twirling the vinyl pizza yields to this technological advance you are referring to as "Snudda".
Next, we'll all discover that an IKEA cheese fondue heating appliance is actually a stealth vinyl record warp remover :>)
L57: "Snudda". "Underbar". Ya can't make these names up folks. We need Swedes to do it for us. I just credit IKEA as being one of the only stores on the planet that a vinylphile could stroll through and have inspire flights of improvisational fancy. And yes, I do believe that by the time you've fondued your licorice flatbread down to a nice sauce perfect for cartridge-dipping, all pre-existing warpage will have indeed been removed...
Next, we'll all discover that an IKEA cheese fondue heating appliance is actually a stealth vinyl record warp remover :>)

No, but they've got this crepe maker.....
I brought up this thread again to forward the URL to a correspondent, and noticed upon rereading Chazzbo's post that he mentions adding detergent to isopropyl -- dish detergent.

While adding a detergent is fine, I would stay away from dish detergent, which is not only tough to find in a perfume-and-dye "free" variety anymore as Chazzbo notes, but which becomes sudsy in use. If needed, I use a few drops of liquid laundry detergent, which is made specifically not to foam up into suds.

Tide is available in a "free" version, and unlike less premium detergents is also formulated with protein-eating enzymes, like some of the designer record cleaning fluids. I figure there's no contaminant of records susceptible to enzymes that won't also commonly be found in dirty clothes, and it seems to me the chemists at P&G can do the job at least as competently as an audiophile specialist firm, at a much lower cost. If mildew needs to be removed from a record, I also add a few drops of regular chlorine bleach to the mixture -- nothing kills and releases mold as well as bleach, and if it weren't safe for vinyl then it wouldn't be OK to use with PVC waste lines (or, one might assume, sold in plastic containers), which it obviously is.

Personally, I haven't bothered with the Photoflo additive, because plain old 70/30 isopropyl from the discount store (nothing but pure water and alcohol) has quite a low surface tension on its own, and fully spreads out to cover the vinyl surface and fill up the grooves without any tendency to bead.

Anyway, the last time I was in Ikea they still carried the Underbar and Snudda...