Direct Drive vs. Idler Drive vs. Belt drive
Dear @mikelavigne : Thank’s. Your first sentence was my own answer when/after I posted. It was obvious but I can’t seen before. """ all three challenge my big Studer’s for musical rightness.. """ there is no best way to explain the top class all of those 3 TTs that are a true challenge for any medium. You really have deep experience along your very high resolution room/set up that permits that even that top quality performance you are a little on the CS port BD design and something is down there this kind of drive because 0ver 90% of my LP listening sessions are through my BD TT and not my DD ones. I remember you since you owned the Goldmud Reference and when you changed from the Sirius 3 to the NVS I knew that there were something really special and indeed was and is that way. Good to see you again in this forum, always a pleasure to read your posts. I know that you post often in WBF but I was banned from there, some people there with closed mind and I’m not to polite because that’s the way I’m. Anyway, as always a learning sessions with you. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. Btw, the studio DD TT 308 you named has bi-directional servo. Very good vintage studio TT. |
@elexberger My friend I talked about have a huge experience. Actually he is the most famost vintage audio intusiast in Israel. So I trust his opinion. I enjoyed my stay in Israel last autumn, i’ve seen great sound systems and nice setups. Audiophile scene is pretty strong in Israel as far as i know. Why your friend is not on audiogon yet ? :)) One my friend had in his system:Kenwood L-07D, EMT 948, Technics SP10mk2, Yamaha GT-2000. He liked Yamaha the most and EMT the second. But, to his taste: L-07D and SP10mk2 sound too sterile. Anyway, when someone telling us "this turntable is sterile" compared to others it’s very important to understand why. As you mentioned he has L-07D which comes with it’s own tonearm made by Micro Seiki. Yamaha GT-2000 comes with it’s own Yamaha tonearm, not very popular tonearm by the way. Those two turntables are for sale as complete units (with pre-mounted tonearms). Technics SP-10 mkII is just a drive and available separately. I’ve tried at least 3 tonearms (Reed 3p "12, EPA-100 "10.5, Schick "12 ... on my ex SP-10 mkII and the sound with each tonearm was different. Do you understand what i mean ? Not sure about EMT, but most likely it’s a complete unit with EMT own tonearm? Old ortofon or New Schick is also popular on EMT... When your friend comparing L-07D (with Kenwood/MicroSeiki tonearm) to Yamaha (with Yamaha tonearm) he’s comparing complete units/turntables factory assembled. Even if the cartridge is the same, the combination of the cartridge and tonearm might change the sound. When he’s using SP-10 mkII he could add almost any tonearm and the sound with each tonearm will be different. In this situation it’s not fair to say that Technics SP-10 mkII is sterile, because SP-10 mkII is just the drive, not a complete turntables. If he put together SP-10 mkII with some tonearm and plinth then the choice of the plinth and tonearm is critical (not to mention the most important part as a phono cartridge matched to the tonearm). And all 4 turntables (Kenwood, Yamaha, EMT and Technics) are Direct Drive at least. I’m not a typical audiophile and I don’t change equipment too often. I have been using EMT 948 since 2011 and I am not going to change it. The truth is, I could live with Lenco L78. It was a very nice, musical turntable. This is why i’m trying to make it clear. Same with your Lenco, did you try EMA and Lenco with the same tonearm/cartridge ? Because if someone comparing turntables there are a lot of combinations of the plinth, arms, carts, mats, feet etc. A fair comparison of the drive must be done with the same tonearm/cartridge on all turntables, when you will be able to "hear" the drive and comment about the drive itself. The rest is just speculations. |
I have both the DN 308 :-) (actually I have several of them ) and a EMT 950 booth are excellent machines. https://pbnaudio.com/pbn-dn308/ Good Listening Peter |
