Dick's / Dave's picks


Anyone else into this series of Grateful Dead recordings?
If so, please list your fave (s) or collection.
jafant
LAte to the Party... but the Dave's picks releases are using technology to "retrieve" better sound quality than was available during the Dick's Picks era.

maybe they will re-release some selected shows from the Dick's Picks releases...

there are also some ownership issues around some recordings, e.g. Bear's Choice, IIRC
Yep, do many hands in the GD machine. Our hope is that all disputes can be settled and let the music play!
Listened to a chunk of it last night it was ok nothing special. Sadly David is running out of really good shows to release.

@jond quote:

Raymonda I'm good thanks I have Charlie Millers version of it and it sounds amazing, I've shared it with a few folks here myself.

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Charlie doesn't have a 5-8-77 release.

The 5-8-77 sbd comes from Hicks. still good.

Next yrs 40th ANNY should be blessed with the new Betty's (count on it)

Warner owns Bear's Choice

I'm surprised if Dave L. is running out of shows to release.  They have tons of tapes (literally) and he just needs to reprocess shows that are traded, or formerly released on the Dick's Picks series if done sig'ly better.

Dave's Process for audio extraction for releases:

http://audiophilereview.com/analog/plangent---a-better-way-to-transfer-analog-tape.html

Time consuming but worth it.

Quote:

I've used Plangent Processes on a variety of projects for the Grateful Dead on older 16 track tapes as well as 2-track 7.5 ips material. The benefits of using the Plangent Process were added imaging, and outstanding clarity of the audio and pitch solidification...while keeping the original analog warmth.

- Jeffrey Norman, Grateful Dead

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I am a big fan of the Plangent Process. Thanks! for sharing- otherone.

Happy Listening!

I'm surprised that David hasn't let out DaP 20 release info (video) yet?

I got the email it's shipping soon but no word yet.

Hoping it's worth the wait (anticipation).

@ Randy-11  I got tons of requests, hahaha (don't we all)?


It appears that the Music buying function over on Dead.net is currently down for a new platform upgrade?

Hey Randy 11 & Jafant -

Are you looking for Sound Test audiophile examples of the Plangent process (before & after)?

If that's what you were referencing, here ya go:

http://www.plangentprocesses.com/examples.htm


Grateful Dead
Dave’s Picks Vol.20: Events Center, University of Colorado, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81
They are now with Warner Music

http://gratefuldead.warnermusic.com/dav ... -9-81.html

DISC 1
1. Cold Rain and Snow 6:38
2. Jack Straw 6:26
3. Friend of The Devil-> 8:10
4. Little Red Rooster 8:48
5. Bird Song 9:01
6. Mama Tried-> 2:25
7. Mexicali Blues 5:15
8. Candyman 6:11
9. Cassidy 6:16
10. Looks Like Rain 8:11

DISC 2
1. China Cat-> 6:01
2. I Know You Rider 6:31
3. Scarlet Begonias-> 10:27
4. Fire On The Mountain-> 8:44
5. Estimated Prophet-> 10:31
6. He’s Gone-> 14:53
7. Rhythm Devils-> 6:16
8. Space-> 9:37

DISC 3
1. The Other One-> 7:40
2. Stella Blue-> 9:31
3. Around and Around-> 3:40
4. Good Lovin 9:23
5. U.S. Blues-> 4:59
6. (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction 6:31
Yep- otherone

I had an email via Dead.net on this one.  Did anyone here attend this series of shows in CO. ?
Good to see you -randy-11

by the timeline of this upcoming release, it ties in with the "Dead Set"
and "Reckoning" legendary shows.
I guess so- the DP #20 is sod out at this time. That was shitty, I received the notification email one day, the next the damned thing sold out???
just buy it on the used market later

looks like the GDO is doing limited releases to drive profits - sad

Sounds pretty good for '81.

I like the fact that it comes from the PA feed > SBD > Reels.

Dave L mentioned Healy did that here and definitely becomes a much "fuller" sound than most early '80's SBD's.

Just ripped to Flac for the seamless LLR>China>Rider closer.

NO gaps!!!!  Really good China > Rider

Listen to Jerry's ending notes to IKYR... He's got some angst in him!!

Go Jer !!!

It took me a moment to figure out what you meant by IKYR. That is a new one to me. It always was "Rider" for those needing to shorten the full name. When combine with China Cat Sunflower it was simply, "China-Rider".

On the other hand "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad", was always GDTRFB.
Dave's Picks are released in HDCD, aren't they?

seems a bit odd as HDCD seems sort of obsolete
Yes - They are released in HDCD after Plangent processing (see above).

HDCD obsolete?
From another forum:
I agree HDCD is not only alive and well, but should be used more, especially since DVD-A and SACD are pretty much dying on the vine. Unless the industry wants to start finally recording and issuing DVD-A at full resolution, and players are made available that will capture same, we would be better off just standardizing HDCD for all CDs and enjoy pretty much the same results (IMO). FYI, below is a link to a good article on DVD-A vs SACD that explains in part why we aren’t getting that touted high resolution on those formats.

http://sound.westhost.com/cd-sacd-dvda.htm
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Just made the DaP20 patch checks from Charlie’s transfer and yes indeed, DaP20 uses Jim Wise’s audience recording.

I.e.
Patch Info:
Sennheiser 421 -> Master Cassette -> CD (By Jim Wise) supplies:
  • Bird Song (last 8 seconds - post song tuning)
  • Mama Tried (complete song)
  • Mexicali Blues (0:00 - 1:38)
  • Scarlet Begonias (6:20 - 7:35)
  • Space (4:52 - end of track)
  • The Other One (0:00 - 4:19)

U can spin up DaP20 and look at these patch times from Charlie and you will see they are the same. +/- a couple seconds.  
Would have been nice to give Jim some props in liner notes of DaP20 but they just grabbed it from LMA and did it on their own

So, in the end, we now know there was only one chain of master reels made by Healy this night.
great to see this thread,i,ve been away for awhile. Being a taper from 85-95 and over 300 shows .thumbs up gentlemen.    (~):=

Good to see you again- oleschool

hopefully this is the year for a proper Cornell '77 release/box set.

Happy Listening!
Dick's Picks Vol. 35 (The Houseboat Tapes) is by far my favorite in the series.  The performances from 1971 were so tight and soulful.  Sound quality on this one is very good as well.  

I own all of the Dave's Picks volumes, most of the Dick's Picks releases and many of the other official releases.  FOr me it;s easier to pick the ones I don't like than the ones I do.  There is such a wealth of great stuff being put out since David Lemiuex became the curator.  It's truly a great time to be a Dead Head.
I should also mention that DP21 arrived in my mailbox yesterday, and is off the chain good.  A GREAT performance as well as a very good sounding recording from 1973.  '73 was an excellent year IMO.
It's truly a great time to be a Dead Head -- except for one thing...


BTW, A poster asked above about Sound Test - it is a legendary 'show" based on the band noodling around as a sound .. er... test (not people asking about a way to test the sound of the CDs)
My copy arrived this afternoon. I will give it proper attention this weekend and report back.
In reading through this thread and others over at dead.net, a series of complaints are voiced about how the Dead are all about driving profits.
I won't try to argue this, but to state the obvious:  The Grateful Dead is and always has been a business.  Many people in the band and supporting the band have depended on the income generated through concert tickets, music and merch sales.  
If the argument is that "the music is supposed to be free" I would agree only in the sense that there is a huge amount of free music available to those who want it, and this is so only because the band wanted it that way.  If you want it free then download it.  To complain about their official release series only being put out to drive profits is silly.  Of course they drive profits!  This is how successful businesses stay in business.  The Dead run a successful business, and my guess is that the employees working for the Dead are not volunteering their time.  It's very expensive to put out these beautiful items.  If they aren't thinking of the bottom line they won't be able to continue producing beautiful items.  
Sorry if I rant.  I don't intend to stir the pot.  I only wish to point out that you can't have your cake and eat it too.  If you want to enjoy these historical shows in their best possible sound quality and nicely packaged with artwork there is no other choice but to support the profitable brand that is Grateful Dead.  Or you can borrow the CDs from friends who do.  I doubt anyone in the band will mind.  ;)  
my issues are not about them being a business, but about the artificial limitations on production runs of DavPs to create scarcity and hence high unit prices when there are other ways to support the people in the GDO

on another note, here is an old thread:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/favorite-of-dick-s-picks