Determining current flow to install "audiophile" fuses.

+1 Wolf, pure voodoo.

And as Ralph say, it's "expectation bias", and that's all anyone gets for $100, except the seller, he's laughing all the way to the bank.  

Cheers George

wolf_Garcia

I recently removed my power amp fuse (cleaned the contact area) and when I put it back I forgot which direction it had been in, thus ruining my shot at trying to hear a difference…I will not remove it again soon as I don’t like to move my 50 lb tube amp around…I just have to sit there and listen and wonder…are the electrons moving properly?

Doesn’t matter Wolf, as the flow changes direction 60 x a second in the USA (60hz). And 50 x times a second here in Australia (50hz).

That’s why it’s called AC (alternating current) this is why "fuse direction" is all a load of voodoo BS.

http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/ac.htm#.VyMcFLlJm70

Cheers George

And you will have absolutely no credibility papa, if you keep promoting that there’s a undeniable difference in sound quality with directionality of fuses here on this thread.

I suggest you go back to the other SR thread you started where your credibility is only half shot, instead of aligning yourself to the full blown voodoo wackos here.

Cheers George

This kind of thinking would intimate that it’s a diode one way but not the other!!!

And it’s not like linear crystal wire that for memory Vandenhul or someone bought out in the 80’s, that can’t be bent at all either.

It’s not a diode, or linear crystal to have such an effect.

It’s resistance wire, end of story and 1/2" long at that!!!!

Cheers George

bo1972

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• Fuses and these chips have a lot in common.

Yes the biggest load of BS ever seen/heard since, the Shun Mook Mpingo Discs from the early 90’s another gullible sucker.

I hope members here are not being sucked in by all this voodoo. Your audio equipment is designed by brilliant electronic technicians who have passion for good sound.

Don't let these shilling witchdoctors here and their cronies that have no idea about the technical/scientific design of audio, suck you in with their voodoo BS!!  

Cheers George

If you guys just had a minuscule amount of AC theory, you would understand the voodoo in this BS of fuse reversal, and whatever else is being shilled here on them.  

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/determining-current-flow-to-install-audiophile-fuses/post?postid=1319945#1319945

https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1319829

Cheers George

Got that right czarivey.

This is just a shill fest, for fuse manufacturers or retailers, who are cleaning up on the gullible here, with "expectation bias" (love that saying Ralph you need to patent it) or the too lazy to return for a refund crew.

Dam wish I was devious enough to think it up. Maybe I can sell stick on resonant dots that have been cryo’ed!!!!!

Cheers George

These guys are shilling, with this voodoo stuff to suck in the gullible, who have no idea about AC (alternating current) mains theory.

They are relying on "expectation bias" (+1 Ralph) with the gullible not to send the 10c fuses back for their $100 refund.

Even if 50% are sent back, that a hell of a profit still, then that 50% gets resold, not even as used stock, eventually all are sold, with a massive profit margin in the end.

Quick way to make a fast million with very little outlay, probably even better than getting in on the ground floor of Apple shares.

Cheers George

"YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH" GK

https://pastorchadetaylor.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/wpid-2015-01-03-10-05-07.png

Seeing this directional fuse c**p is down to internal component level GK, you should take it over the "Tech Talk " forum, where the the tech heads will definitely tell you which way to insert it.

Cheers George

It is supported only by expectation bias; anyone who really wants to get to the bottom of it will find that if they try reversing the fuse again after finding the ’favorable’ direction, will find a similar benefit in the other direction. That is if they keep an open mind.

"Expectation bias" I totally agree.

Then unbelievable improvements heard like this that just suck the gullible into purchasing these $100 "super fuses" That the supporters of these fuses pat on the back for hearing such great fantastic differences.

Now, with substantial hours in and all-SR Black fuses in the amp, here’s what my ears hear (forgive my lack of audiophile vocabulary, I’ll just describe it as best I can):

- Improved instrument separation, placement, and 3-dimensionality

- Perception of more immediacy and "smack/oomph"

- Lower, tighter, punchier bass

- Overall just a better sense of musicality

- I feel there was a very, very subtle loss of realism in instrument/vocal texture.

Cheers George

Nothing there about sound improvement in Ralph’s post. Just the the mention of build quality regarding the Teflon support tube that stops the resistance wire from moving too much with every switch on. That could eventually break because of self hardening. That’s all.

Cheers George

Well done and said Ralph, now you can insert it the right way GK.

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-pooping-emoticon-67254478.jpg  

Is that so called "arrow" similar to the Linn Audio symbol, it represents a stylus on a record, but also looks like a diode.

http://small.linncdn.com/website/responsive/images/logo-black-chunky.png

Cheers George

And to add to this absurd sound difference of fuses and their direction detection.

Now, with substantial hours in and all-SR Black fuses in the amp, here’s what my ears hear (forgive my lack of audiophile vocabulary, I’ll just describe it as best I can):

- Improved instrument separation, placement, and 3-dimensionality

- Perception of more immediacy and "smack/oomph"

- Lower, tighter, punchier bass

- Overall just a better sense of musicality

- I feel there was a very, very subtle loss of realism in instrument/vocal texture.

GK post the links that collaborate your findings on direction v sound of fuses.

Or take it all to your website, where just about everything is VOODOO! and this directional fuse stuff won’t feel out of place on it.

And as far as your explanation of arrows, that you can’t verify with documented manufacturers proof.

May I suggest that you need to investigate that the so called "arrow" is for inserting it the right way round where the sun don’t shine.

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-pooping-emoticon-67254478.jpg  

Cheers George

czarivey

• George, look at Geoff’s site. He’s got much-more-a-plenty-more of artifacts of audio -- you’ll be truly amazed and amused!
  

I know I’ve seen it, he really does stick pins in dolls.

And GK you still haven’t posted links to documented fuse manufacturers poof of directionality of fuses. I ask once again please post the links!

Cheers George

And you think you've found the holy grail on directional fuses, even though there is no manufacturers documented evidence you can link to.

Like your avatar it's all voodoo.

Cheers George

geoffkait

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George, I take it you’re forfeiting? Excellent move.

No!! just over your VOODOO bu****it trying to make yourself a guru with the gullible here, even though your technically inept. Or maybe your just shilling for a fuse manufacturer. Without any documented evidence of directionality proof on fuses from the manufacturer, which I asked many times for you to post a link to.

Cheers George

Listen to yourself GK.

You are certifiable, and should be committed asap.

Cheers George

Let just say GK your bu****it is correct and that it is directional, do you honestly believe that you have the "Golden Ears" to be able to pick it up with just 1/2" of wire.

Then sunshine, what about all the feet of copper tracks of the circuit board itself, are you going to turn them around too so they are in the right direction as well!!!  VOODOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers George    

Your right Al I sped red it, and my apologies to mlsstl. The voodooist's know it's aimed at them.

Cheers George

Got that totally wrong sunshine.

Technicians that are also audiophiles use/calculate different technical assessment properties. Then make subjective listening assessments, to which sound better of those technical differences.

There is no VOODOO, praying to the hifi gods or waving a big stick involved, I suggest if your equipment is designed like this, throw it in the bin before it blows up or kills you.  

Cheers George

All wire is physically asymmetrical due to being pulled through the final die.

Ok now that you've said this, show where this is quoted that a 1/2" piece of resistance wire is directional.? Or is it your voodoo thought on the subject, and is not quoted anywhere else by any manufacturer of their fuse product?

Cheers George

OK show us a power cord with two wire connection that has directionality advertised in the manufacturers POSTED docs/details. (not just an arrow on the wire.)

Some two wire powercords that have a figure 8 plug that plug into the back of low power devices such as cdp dacs ect. Can sound different if the figure 8 plug is turned around 180’. But that’s not directionality, it because the active v the neutral is fed into the mains transformer differently, inner winding v outer winding. A FUSE DOES NONE OF THIS!!!! It’s a 1/2" piece of resistance wire!!!!

Like I said Forest v Trees v geoffkait .

I relay my baton over to almarg/mapman, I’m sick of of this voodoo s**t.

Cheers George

This can also depended on how the sometimes many +- conductors what way they are twisted together over meters which have inductance, capacitance and resistance , there is only ONE conductor in a fuse that's only 1/2" long!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Cheers George

I'm not debating after market fuses, power cords or anything if they are used as such and are to the standards.

What I queried was that you had to "ask" the manufacturer, and that it was not stated in any doc or on their website about the fuses being directional, as this could be liable.

And I still challenge any member to show a publicly seen doc that a manufacturers fuse is directional.

Cheers George          

Power cables have three wires, re-read my last post, sorry but you are becoming a lost cause, and can't see the forest through the trees

Cheers George

Yes you are correct some interconnects can be directional, ones that have +&- conductors with a shield, that’s only connected at one end, that end should be at poweramp.

But fuses are not shielded. And I still ask you or anyone else to post any manufacturers ad/doc that SAYS they are directional. "It’s all VOODOO" that you are promoting.

Cheers George

I learned my lesson and always ask designers for the correct direction

You had to ask.

As they would never put it in writing, as then that could very well be liable.

Cheers George

Stop being engineers, real scientists would be finding out why there is a direction.

It’s these engineers and scientists that use all the laws of electronics to design every piece of equipment in your system, and if by some chance you have a piece of equipment that is not designed this way, I strongly suggest you throw it in the garbage bin.

I ask anyone to quote JUST ONE engineer, scientist or audio designer of any note (that is not aligned to making dollars from the gullible) that fuses are directional.

Cheers George

Na, not hype, but a great marketing ploy to suck in the gullible, and the odds are 50% of them won't do the 30 money back thing due to the embarrassment for maybe not being able to "hear" the "magic" difference. It's called suggestive selling with a shame clause.

Cheers George .