Denon dcd 110 or Marantz saki Ruby?


So the title explain itself. I’m planning to upgrade my sacd player, currently an oppo 103. Recently launched the Denon dcd 110 and the not so new Marantz saki Ruby (I Will not consider the 30 which is lower than the SA KI). Im looking mostly for more musicality, more extended and deeper, more engaging sound. Which of them you think could bring better this sound?
Thank you!
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Hi there,
I have a Ruby and the Service repair manual.
You can buy a SA-KI Ruby, SA-12 SE, SA-12, or SA-12 OSE.
They are all the same except for the copper plating on Ruby and SA12 OSE. The filter settings are restricted on the Ruby and the SA.-12 SE.
I think the SA-12 and the SA-12 OSE are for Japan only.
I have a black Ruby SA-KI number 819/999
At first I was very disappointed, the sound was not good at all.
My old Sony XA5ES(modified) sounded much better.
What have I wasted money on? Expensive crap.
I thought burn-in may make it sound a little better.
I gave it a chance before I decided if I should sell it for half price.
I used Audacity and an online tone generator to make a mix of frequency sweep (5hz-20124hz at 0db(full signal volume) and used a usb mem-stick as source.
It played for 100+ hours (my tube-amp turned off but connected)
I waited and waited and finally I dared to sit down and listened.
WOW what a difference.
After this treatment the sound is SO much better.
Now it sounds BETTER than the Sony, smoother and more life-like.
This player is in need of some serious burn-in.
My Ruby is a keeper.


Hi all,
Now my Marantz sa-ki ruby has been on for, 12400 hours.
Almost all is playing from a USB stick.
I have not noticed any change in sound quality after about 3000 hours. 
My SACD laser still has zero hours, and the CD laser has 256 hours.
So far I like the sound very much. However, at about 5000 hours I turned it off to let it cool down for 23 hours and the sound became harsh and unpleasant. It took at least 48 hours to get the good sound back, so I decided to leave it on all the time.

I have measured the temperature inside the player by sticking a probe through a screw hole, and it’s always around 37°C. So, according to an online electrolytic capacitor aging calculator, the electrolytic capacitors should last at least another 5 years if I never turn the player off. 


How many hours do you have on yours?
 
(1)While holding down buttons "stop" and "open tray" simultaneously, press the power button to turn on the power.
The tray opens automatically.
(2) Insert a CD and press the "close tray" button to close the tray.
(wait until reading the disc.)
(3)Make sure that "Aging Mode" is displayed. Use the skip buttons to go to laser on time TB1 or TB2 then press play to get the time.

 

 

Hi,
The total time is from when I first turned it on OCT 1 2020. 
 https://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=01&m1=10&y1=2020&d2=16&m2=3&y2=2022&ti=on

Then I just subtracted two events, once when I forgot to set repeat (-7h) and once when I tested the sound after a cooldown. (-23h)
TB1=CD,  TB2=SACD(DVD)
T21 and T22 is Laser check mode. (for laser adjustments)

The service manual from:  https://www.service-manual.net/?download=69238-marantz-sa12-fn-sa-ki-ruby-series-service-manual 

How many laser hours do you have?

The laser will most likely last a long time. A laser life is normally between 25000 and 50000 hours, that’s what I have read.

Also, the laser can be adjusted if there is a problem.

With the service manual as an "instructor" there are no worries.

Spare parts for DIY.

https://encompass.com/item/11039994/MARANTZ/991312100050S/

https://www.partstown.com/marantz/mrtz991312100050s

https://www.brelect.fr/index.php?page=produits.inc.php&lib=MECANIQUE+TRAVERSE+UNIT+

DENON%2FMARANTZ&code=991312100050S

or call your local Marantz service center for parts availability and price.

The electrolytic capacitors will not last forever, either.

I’m looking forward to putting even higher quality Elna in my Ruby when the sound starts to degrade.