Dedicated line


I've been reading the threads on dedicated line and AC polarity. Although wire gauge type was mentioned (12 or 10), is there a particular BRAND of wire to look out for or any generic wire would do? Many thanks.
glim

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#12 is good for 20 amps, plenty of amps for most audio gear. Standard house wiring is insulated fine for safety but has zero shelding for EMI or RFI, which is why the big buck power cable guys can draw such a following. If you have a very short run from your service entrance point, or very deep pockets, you could run 'audio grade' power cable all the way to gain EMI/RFI shielding. I recently had a dedicated line installed as well as an isolated ground. I was able to install the isolated ground myself by driving an 8' copper ground rod into the ground outside my listening room, changing the recepticals to the isolated ground variety, and running a seperate ground wire from the new receptical to the ground rod. This made an incredible improvement in depth, clarity & background silence, but there was still some A/C 60hz noise, so I had an electrician install a dedicated 20 amp circuit (with regular house wire, but in a metal conduit), leaving the isolated ground in place. Now the ONLY sounds between cuts are the sounds made by the tubes & transformers in my Cary power amps. To hear this, I have to crank the power up past 12 noon & kneel on all 4's in front of my speakers. From the listening position there is dead silence. This is with or with out my Monster HTS2000 in the line, reducing the HTS2000 to surge protection only as there is no noise left to clean up. The isolated grounding cost me about $30 & some sweat. The dedicated circuit cost $300 for the labor & materials. Hope this helps.
What I am going to say here is based on 30+ years of experience with major manufacturers (GE, SqD) and a utility (Ga Power)in the electrical products market, from the high voltage switchgear utilized by the utility all the way down to the 15 amp circuit receptical (outlet) in a residence. During this entire time I have maintained a strong interest in audio, although I have only recently invested in big buck gear. 1) I never heard ac noise in my audio system until I had purchased the big buck gear that revealed the power quality for what is is! 2) The dedicated circuits and isolated grounding that I am using is effective, up to a point, in reducing the problem, as follows: a) from my listening position, I have dead silence 98% of the time. The 2% that I don't is due to feedback via the common (neutral 'white wire') from my PC, a dimmer, a fluorescent lamp, & sometimes the refrigerator, all inside my own house & not the utilities problem. b)for this 98% 'Quiet tTime', if I get down on my hands & knees & put my ear 1 to 3 inches from the bass drivers, I can hear the 60hz 'thrum-thrum-thrum'. This is when my tube power amps are on, regardless of preamp on or off & regardless of the amps being fed via preamp or direct from the CD source. The 'thrum' is less when using cheaters to eliminate the ground all together than without them, but either way, to hear it, requires being on hands & knees very close to the bass drivers. c)none of the AC power devices I've tried have done anything to reduce this 60 hz 'thrum'. Exotic power cords don't either, although they seemed to do more on the non- dedicated circuits I had before. I have delt with wiring devices, from the 29 cent outlet variety through the most expensive mass produced ones by Hubbell, P&S, Leviton, Bryant, etc, & have heard no difference until the point where the cheap ones lose their spring tension & cannot hold a plug tightly. I use $8.50 P&S isolated ground industrial grade 15 amp recepticals fed by # 12 20 amp solid house wire, individual wires, not romex, in a steel conduit. d)I have not tried the PS300/600 yet, as the 'thrum' I'm describing is of such low level it is completly hidden by any level audio signal. However, the product makes technical sense as it delivers balanced ac power to our North American 120 volt homes. 240 volts is balanced, 120 is unbalanced, which allows the neutral feedback I mentioned as the source of my 2% problem. I would love to hear from some of our European readers about line noise in their 240 volt systems - I bet it is far below the audible level - but I don't know from experience. If it is, we can all have 240 volt dedicated lines installed & buy 240 volt gear! 3)The 8' ground rod outside my listening room that I use to ground my dedicated circuit is not strictly in accordance with the National Electrical Code, which insists that the ground path go directly back to the service entrance box. There is a safety reason for this NEC requirement, in that if you somehow manage to get hold of your service entrance ground at the same time you have a hold of your dedicated ground, you can receive a shock from the difference in ground potential, so if you do this at home, know what you are doing! I'm not recommending it to anyone else just because I do it, remember I have an electrical background. 4)Anyone know if the PS300/600 solves this problem? Any other solution? Thanks!!