Having done so, and putting a good quality AC outlet on the dedicated line it made a large difference. One of the biggest differences I've experienced vs. a moderate power conditioner.
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The resulting loss of noise from isolating your audio system from other lines is well worth the relatively minor expense if you have a fairly resolving system.
The "versus" part of your system sets a bit of a false dichotomy IMHO. It's not a matter of either or. Improvements in power delivery are cummulative.
If you heard the improvements the Tice brought to your system, you will probably hear what a seperatepower line does. Finally, if you hear what the seperate power line does, you might be amazed at what the latest generation of power conditioners can do.
Depends on how good your current line is.
IF your current line is not used for any other devices.. And is not on the leg your refrigerator is on... Then most likely not much improvement.
If your current line has two dimmers for lights on it, and is used for other things, and taht 'leg' has the refrigerator on it, then yeah, a separate line will be great.
Also IF the wires to your outlet are broken by several other outlets.. And the new lines will be direct. the too could mean it will get better.
(though you can bypass those intermediary outlets to imporve your one used for audio instead. Just rune the wires together through them, wit pigtails to the duplex in each. or even just make certain none of the intermediary duplex outlets have the power running through the break off tab on each duplex (the vast majority DO use one screw of the side on the duplex outlet for in, across the tab, then the other screw to continue the powerline. which sucks.)
So, depending on your arrangement it could be helpful, or a waste of money.
If you have two 15 or 20 amp lines added, be certain they are on the same LEG of the incoming 120v 120v 0v
So no dangerous 240V potential can be between your equipment.
2k95aero, why do you need the power company to drop a separate new line to your house ? The only reason a person would need to do such a thing is if they needed to power a massive audio/video system or home studio, and their existing service drop was inadequate. Looking at things from a practical viewpoint, even if you went ahead with such an idea, the new drop would be in parallel with the existing household system. With both drops being sourced from the same POCO transformer, you would achieve only so much isolation. Just get an electrician to install a dedicated line from your existing panel and you should be good to go.
Thank you lady and gentlemen, always a learning experience here on the forum.
Didn't realize I could just go from the panel for a dedicated line but now that has been pointed out to me of course it makes sense.
I know plenty of electricians here, I'll pick up a nice outlet with the money I save.
Vhiner, you're correct - I was a bit lazy and used "vs." improperly in my title. And I think I may have to ask Santa for a nice Shunyata PC for Christmas.
Are you listening Santa? I mean, are you listening Dear?
Thanks again all...
I had assumed you meant lines from your box and not a new service drop. In any case, there are some pretty good deals on used Hydra's out there and, depending upon how many outlets you need, it might actually be cheaper to upgrade your pc....but I'm a biased Shunyata fanatic. ;-)
Everyone here has made points worth considering. Please post about how things turn out when and if you make the change.
Md8232: Your electrician won't have any options. It's the local code that dictates what you can use inside the walls. I personally like BX (http://www.seatekco.com/bx.htm) because it has a flexible steel shielding around it and if your local code allows it, I would use it. It's more expensive to buy and to install, but IMHO the shielding from stray RF, fluorescent fixture, microwave, etc. noises is well worth it.
I would also definitely install an "isolation transformer" (see Wikipedia for more info) which isolates the power from the rest of the house and your neighbors. The transformer effect also isolates any stray power line interference and noises. The power line coming from the transformer on the pole (or underground) is supplying power to many homes. That means all of these homes have a common shared power line in parallel until they get to the transformer. So if anyone is operating a electrical device that generates line noise, it will be fed back to your house wires and to your equipment.
The key factor is do you have the power line wire drop from a transformer only to your house, or is it shared with any neighbor, regardless of the distance between houses.
You don't need a metal outlet box with BX, but to continue the shielding effect, you should use one, including the cover plate. Cost difference is negligible. You could use a standard plastic cover on the outlet to match the rest of the house.
I've had great success with two 20 amp dedicated lines and I use Shunyata power conditioners Hydra 2,Guardian 2,Hydra 8)and a Furman balanced power conditioner.
I isolate the furman on one dedicated line and only have my cd player on it.
The other dedicated line has a new Furutech GTX D,G,receptacle and into that go the two Hydras for the rest of the gear.
Keeping your cd player on a single dedicated line is quite the experience.
Better than using the dedicated digital receptacles on a power conditioner and plugging the rest of your gear into it.
Make sure your dedicated lines are on the same phase at your breaker box.
There should be one empty space between the new breakers, so that both lines are either on the top or the bottom panel sockets.Not one atop the other, leave a space.
Also if you go 20 amp, use 12/2 wire,which isn't too expensive if you buy 30 M,under $75.00(CDN) or you could max out and use 30 amp breaker and 10/2 wire-12/2 and 10/2 have a third wire which is ground wire so you've really got 3 wires.
If you start with dedicated lines, then use good receptacles(Hubble hospital at least) and dare I mention Upgraded fuses,you'll start to hear your system for the first time.
Then you can experiemnt with different power conditioners, power cords, inter connects, amps etc. and for the first time experience the differences.
I firmly believe that one of the reasons why some music lovers fail to hear differences in wires etc, is because the power to their gear is so bad it is robbing their systems ability to differentiate between brand A and brand B.
You get out of your system only what you put into it.
Do none of the above power tweaks and continue to listen to only a portion of what you've invested your hard earned dollars in.
The dedicated lines is the starting point, work from the panel(the true source component)first and then tweak down the line.
I wish I had discovered this a few years ago, when I switched gear like changing my socks.
Had I gone the power route I never would have wasted so much time and money going from one component to the next.
If everything is starting to sound the same,go to the panel and start from there.