Dedicated 20 Amp Line for Audio


Lots of threads on the subject already, but I’m a little confused on one thing. Is the dedicated line just for the amplifier (in my case an integrated) and another line for the other components? Or, is it just one line for everything in the complete audio system?

Thanks!

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Showing 7 responses by millercarbon

Elimination of daisy chained outlets is huge. Mine was wired that way at first. Of all the things I have done with AC - cryo, 4awg, 240/120 step down - the biggest was the cheapest, eliminating the daisy chain going direct.

Considering this was the first thing I did, way back in the 90's when my system wasn't nearly as transparent and revealing of improvements as today, that is really saying something. 

 

I don't know about the difference in price, but I do know the difference cryo makes. The guy who runs Cryo-One in Orting is into shifter karts, when he heard I was PCA track instructor we hit it off and so now I know all about cryo. Pulled all my wire and had him cryo, 50 cents a pound. So I know exactly the difference cryo makes from having heard the same wire in the same system before and after. 

jw944ts-

@millercarbon 

Thanks for sharing the Fremer video...unlike some others here, I thoroughly enjoyed it....

Probably because you came to learn and Fremer and I came to share what we've learned. There is so much to learn. Like, did you notice? Fremer started out saying "lines" then caught himself. So he learned. But first he learned "lines" and had to unlearn to get better, and old habits die hard. I don't know how Fremer did it but I actually ran my room wired several different ways and heard the difference first hand. This was several years of my life figuring this stuff out. Same for Fremer too I bet.

Am I reading that right, jw? 944 Turbo S?

Fremer is okay. But Fremer on video is time wasting. Even when cued up to say exactly what is relevant thereby wasting zero time. fuzzball, your MDS is showing.

Remember when you get ground loop hum, move the phono over to the same as everything else. 

The vast majority of home circuits are run in a daisy chain from one outlet to the next. Every connection introduces micro-arcing and noise. All the current running to the last component had to go through all those connections. Also every wire is an antenna and brings RFI into the line. So even if your system is the first outlet merely by running to the others introduces more RFI.

The main reason for a dedicated line is to remove all these sources of noise. The difference is big and easy to hear. This noise is present on all AC lines, just much less without all those extra connections. It is not just for the amp, every component benefits. Running more than one line is unnecessary and may even be worse, in that it runs the risk of introducing noise in the form of ground plane differentials.